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Order of Operations | The Buckets | The Roth IRA
Episode 028

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Discussing the various buckets available for retirement savings, the episode focuses on the order of operations for maximizing financial independence. The hosts, Jonathan Mendonsa and Brad Barrett, outline the four primary tax treatments for retirement funds: health savings accounts (HSAs), Roth IRAs, taxable brokerage accounts, and traditional retirement accounts like 401(k)s. The advantages of each bucket are illustrated, particularly highlighting the benefits of tax-deferred accounts. Additionally, the conversation delves into strategies like the Roth IRA conversion ladder and the significance of understanding marginal tax brackets. This foundational understanding is presented as crucial for anyone seeking to optimize their path to financial independence and successfully manage their tax liability throughout their life. The hosts emphasize the importance of contribution strategies and how early financial planning can lead to substantial long-term wealth accumulation.

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Unlocking Financial Independence: Mastering Your Retirement Savings Buckets

Achieving financial independence is a journey that requires understanding and effectively utilizing the right financial tools. One of the essential frameworks for navigating this path is the concept of "buckets" for retirement savings. By organizing your investment strategies across various tax-advantaged accounts, particularly for retirement, you can optimize your savings and maximize your financial growth.

The Importance of Retirement Buckets

In retirement planning, categorizing your savings into specific “buckets” based on how they are taxed is vital. These buckets generally include Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), Roth IRAs, traditional 401(k)s, and standard brokerage accounts.

Understanding the Four Buckets

  1. Health Savings Account (HSA): This is the optimal bucket for retirement savings as it offers triple tax benefits—contributions are tax-deductible, funds grow tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are also tax-free. Maximize contributions to your HSA as much as possible.

  2. Roth IRA: Contributions to a Roth IRA are made with after-tax dollars. This bucket allows qualified tax-free withdrawals in retirement, making it especially beneficial if you anticipate being in a higher tax bracket in the future.

  3. Traditional 401(k): This bucket allows you to save on a pre-tax basis, reducing your current taxable income. However, distributions in retirement will be taxed as ordinary income.

  4. Brokerage Accounts: Money in these post-tax accounts is subject to capital gains tax, which can create tax implications depending on how long you hold your investments.

Strategic Contributions to Each Bucket

To maximize your financial growth, prioritize contributions to these buckets based on your current income and tax implications. Consider the following strategies:

  • Max out your tax-deferred accounts: Focus on contributing to your 401(k) and HSA first. These options allow your investments to grow without being diminished by taxes.

  • Utilize the Roth IRA when benefits apply: If you are in a low tax bracket now, contributing to a Roth IRA can be advantageous. This is particularly beneficial for young earners or those with minimal income since you’re taxed at a lower rate.

  • Assess your brokerage accounts for flexibility: While not tax-advantaged like other buckets, brokerage accounts provide access to your money without penalties and allow for diversified investment opportunities.

Embrace Stealth Wealth

One of the cornerstones of financial independence is maintaining a lifestyle that allows you to save more and invest wisely, which is often referred to as "stealth wealth." By adopting a lifestyle focused on reduced expenses, you free up more capital to invest in these various buckets effectively.

The Power of Backdoor Roth IRA

For high-income earners who may be ineligible to contribute directly to a Roth IRA due to income limits, the backdoor Roth IRA is an invaluable strategy. Here’s how to leverage this tool:

  1. Make a Non-Deductible Contribution: First, contribute to a traditional IRA. Confirm that you do not have pre-tax IRA balances to avoid pro-rata taxation issues.

  2. Convert to Roth IRA: After funding your traditional IRA with non-deductible contributions, convert those funds to a Roth IRA. This step allows you to bypass the income limitations typically imposed on Roth contributions.

  3. Follow Up with Proper Documentation: Make sure to file the necessary forms (like Form 8606) correctly to report your non-deductible contributions and conversions properly to the IRS.

By utilizing the backdoor Roth IRA strategy, you can position yourself to enjoy tax-free growth and withdrawals in retirement, enhancing your overall retirement savings strategy.

Optimize Your Tax Strategy

Understanding how taxation impacts your financial plans cannot be overstated. Knowing your effective tax rate and utilizing tax-deferred options as much as possible can significantly impact your net wealth. For instance, maximizing contributions to tax-deferred accounts not only reduces your taxable income but allows for more significant compounding over time.

Future Planning: Think Generationally

Consider the long-term implications of your retirement accounts. The concept of generational wealth allows you to build a financial legacy. By strategically utilizing Roth IRAs and understanding their withdrawal implications on heirs, you can effectively create wealth that persists beyond your retirement.

Conclusion and Action Items

As you embark on your journey toward financial independence, keep these financial tools and strategies at the forefront of your planning process:

  1. Max Out Tax-Deferred Accounts: Prioritize contributions to your 401(k) and HSA.
  2. Evaluate Your Income: Consider leveraging a Roth IRA if you're currently in a low tax bracket.
  3. Implement the Backdoor Roth Strategy: Investigate if you’re eligible to use the backdoor method to access a Roth IRA.

By taking control of your financial bucket strategies and continuously educating yourself on optimizing your tax strategies, you're well on your way to achieving financial independence. Start implementing these actionable insights today to ensure a secure financial future.

In today's podcast we discuss the four different "buckets" available to savers plus an in-depth look at the Roth IRA and the 'Backdoor Roth.'

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Podcast Episode Summary

  • The order of operations for how you should approach the different “buckets” available to you both for retirement accounts and for your taxable savings
  • Four basic ways for your retirement and investment funds to be taxed
  • Best case is an account similar to the HSA which is not taxed when you put the money in nor when you pull it out
  • Option 2 is the Roth IRA which is taxed upfront but not when you pull the money out
  • Option 3 is a traditional IRA, 401k, etc. where it is not taxed when you contribute but is taxed when you withdraw
  • Option 4 is your regular savings/investment accounts
  • We focus mostly on tax-deferred retirement accounts because that is the best way to lower your taxable income in the current year and reduce your tax liability. Because of advanced FI concepts such as the ‘Roth IRA conversion ladder’ there is a chance you can pull this money out nearly tax free once you reach financial independence
  • You want to max out your tax-deferred options
  • The FI community looks at this problem differently than traditional financial planners and doesn’t focus on the Roth IRA generally
  • Roth IRA makes sense if you are nearly certain that your tax rate will be higher in retirement than it currently is now (think children under 18)
  • The issue is this is unknowable at the time of contribution (unless you are at a 0% rate)
  • You can pull out your Roth IRA contributions at any time tax and penalty free
  • Flexibility of your bucket #4 (taxable savings) is a big positive of that investing option over a Roth IRA
  • The concept of a marginal tax bracket and an understanding of how your income is taxed
  • Financial planners focus on the ‘tax diversity’ play of the Roth versus traditional retirement accounts
  • Income limitations do exist for the Roth IRA
  • There are also contribution limitations yearly for these accounts
  • How to reduce your Adjusted Gross Income on your tax return to qualify for a Roth IRA
  • The Backdoor Roth IRA option for high income individuals
  • Discussion of the White Coat Investor article on the Backdoor Roth IRA and how you can convert your money from a nondeductible traditional IRA to a Roth IRA (the ‘backdoor’ Roth)
  • Avoiding the pro-rata calculation
  • How to contribute to the traditional IRA account as a nondeductible contribution and then convert it to a Roth

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