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Sequence of Return Risk | Early Retirement Now
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This episode delves into sequence of return risk and its implications for those seeking financial independence. The hosts, Jonathan Mendonsa and Brad Barrett, discuss how withdrawing from investments during market downturns can dramatically affect long-term financial security. With insights from Big Earn, the episode explores vital factors in determining a safe withdrawal rate and the unique risks retirees face based on market conditions. Additionally, strategies to mitigate these risks are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of adjusting withdrawal rates based on personal circumstances and market performance. Understanding these concepts is crucial for anyone on the pathway to financial independence, especially those considering early retirement.

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Understanding Sequence of Return Risk

Investing for financial independence (FI) requires not only a solid strategy but also an awareness of the inherent risks associated with withdrawal timing in retirement. One critical concept in this realm is known as sequence of return risk. This risk refers to the potential negative impact on a retiree’s portfolio when the timing of withdrawals aligns with market downturns, particularly in the early years of retirement.

Why Sequence of Return Risk Matters

  1. Retirement Timing: The first few years after you retire can be pivotal for your portfolio. If your investments experience losses during these years while you are making withdrawals, the long-term sustainability of your funds can be severely compromised. For example, withdrawing 4% from a portfolio during a market decline can lead to a situation where the portfolio cannot recover, especially if the market takes years to rebound.

  2. Market Behavior: Historical data have shown substantial variations in market performance. An investor retiring in a year with poor market returns could see a drastic reduction in their available capital, affecting their withdrawal rates and financial independence journey.

Strategies to Mitigate Sequence of Return Risk

Mitigating sequence of return risk involves a combination of strategic planning and disciplined execution. Here are several actionable recommendations:

1. Start with a Solid Bond Portfolio

  • Mitigate risk by beginning with bonds: When entering retirement, having a robust bond portfolio can provide stability during the initial phase. Bonds tend to be less volatile than stocks, which can help buffer your portfolio against market swings.

2. Adjust Withdrawal Rates Based on Market Conditions

  • Be flexible with spending: It’s crucial to periodically reassess your withdrawal strategy. If the market is taking a downturn, consider reducing withdrawals temporarily, allowing your portfolio to recover. This flexibility can protect your savings from being depleted too quickly.

3. Diversify Your Investments

  • Reduce risk through diversification: Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Spread your investments across different asset classes (stocks, bonds, real estate, etc.). This diversification can help cushion the impact of poor market performance in any single area.

4. Consider Using the Variable Percentage Withdrawal (VPW) Strategy

  • Withdraw based on portfolio performance: Implement a withdrawal strategy where your withdrawals are a percentage of the portfolio's value at the start of each year. This method automatically adjusts your withdrawals in response to market performance, aligning spending with portfolio health.

Understanding the 4% Rule and Its Limitations

The 4% rule has been a popular guideline suggesting that retirees can withdraw 4% of their initial retirement portfolio each year, adjusted for inflation. However, this rule is not foolproof and does not account for sequence of return risk.

Adjusting the 4% Rule

  • Modify the withdrawal percentage: Depending on the current market conditions, you may need to adjust this percentage. If equity prices are high, it may be reasonable to withdraw at a higher rate. Conversely, if the market is down, it might be wise to consider a lower withdrawal percentage to preserve capital.

Real-life Scenarios: The Impact of Withdrawal Timing

While theoretical models provide a framework for understanding sequence of return risk, real-life scenarios illustrate its true effects.

Case Study: Retiring in 2000

Consider an individual who retired in 2000 with a $1 million portfolio. This retiree withdraws $40,000 annually. In the first few years, the market suffers significant setbacks, dropping his portfolio value considerably.

  • Cash flow issues during downturns: Withdrawing $40,000 from a devalued portfolio increases the effective withdrawal rate beyond the original 4%, leading to faster depletion of resources.
  • Long-term implications: This scenario demonstrates that bad timing and poor market conditions can erode retirement savings much more quickly than anticipated.

Learning from the Patterns of Safe Withdrawal Rates

Financial independence is not just about the right numbers; it is about making informed decisions that account for potential risks.

1. Regular Portfolio Assessments

  • Conduct ongoing evaluations: Regularly review your portfolio performance and adjust your withdrawal rates accordingly. This approach allows you to respond proactively to market fluctuations instead of reactively scrambling to correct course after losses have already occurred.

2. Prepare for the Unexpected

  • Build a cash reserve: Have a reserve of cash or cash-equivalents that can cover several years' worth of withdrawals. This strategy will provide you with additional security during periods of market volatility.

Conclusion: Crafting a Sustainable Retirement Strategy

Understanding and mitigating sequence of return risk is essential for ensuring a durable retirement strategy. By being proactive—starting with a diverse portfolio, adjusting withdrawals based on performance, and preparing for unexpected downturns—you can greatly enhance the likelihood of achieving financial independence.

Take the time to review your current investment strategy. Are you prepared for market fluctuations? Consider consulting with a financial planner to ensure your withdrawal strategy aligns adequately with both your portfolio and market conditions. Reflect on your retirement timeline and make any necessary adjustments to safeguard your financial future.

In today's conversation with Big Ern from Early Retirement Now we discuss safe withdrawal rates, sequence of returns risk and much more.

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Podcast Episode Summary

  • A wide ranging discussion with Big ERN from Early Retirement Now on sequence of return risk and safe withdrawal rates
  • This is Big Ern’s first podcast! And a thank you to him for helping with Paul’s case study
  • Ern’s thoughts on social security
  • Ern’s origin story and his thoughts on early retirement
  • He had a student loan that he invested since he went to college for free. So he ended up with a positive net worth after graduation
  • Why do we need to be concerned with sequence of return risk?
  • Ern says that sequence of returns risk is the “reason why people run out of money in retirement” from getting unlucky with low returns in the first 5-10 years
  • What are “real returns”? Adjusted for inflation
  • The years to worry about having poor returns are the first 5 to 10 years and it has to be prolonged and significant
  • Hypothetical example of the 4% rule and what Ern thinks about it
  • Resources to game out your chances of success
  • Example of sequence of returns risk for an early retiree who is withdrawing money from the portfolio
  • How sequence of return risk impacts the saver and buy-and-hold investor
  • If you’re a saver during downturns, you benefit significantly
  • Buy and hold investors should not be impacted as long as they didn’t sell during the downturn
  • Talking through the ‘stubborn’ 4% withdrawals and the impact on success of early retirement.
  • Ern’s look at the real-world ramifications of a market drop and withdrawals
  • ‘If you’re unlucky, you can get screwed twice by sequence of return risk’ example
  • How to alleviate sequence of return risk
  • Mortgaging your future contributions by buying on margin and front-loading
  • Spreading out your contributions to the equities market over years lowers your sequence of returns risk
  • Ern’s thoughts on front-loading and a description of his investments
  • Thoughts on Bogle’s prediction that 4% returns can be expected in the near future
  • The “4% rule of thumb”
  • What worries Ern about someone retiring early in the next 10 years?
  • What do you do if you inherit $100,000?
  • Ern’s thoughts on 30x expenses saved up and what his safest safe withdrawal rate would be
  • Hot Seat Questions
  • Benefits of geographic arbitrage
  • Ern feels he was complacent with his savings rate earlier in life
  • Becoming wealthy is a long-term process of small, regular investments and staying the course when the equity market is down
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