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The High Cost Of Living Path To FI
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The journey to financial independence (FI) can be challenging, especially for those starting later in life or in high-cost areas. Paige shares her experience overcoming significant obstacles such as low income and student debt to achieve her goal of FI by 2025. She emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts and creative strategies to save money, including living with roommates and maximizing contributions to retirement accounts. Sam, who follows a different path of intermittent retirement, illustrates how having low living expenses and support from family can significantly influence one's financial journey. Together, they debunk limiting beliefs surrounding financial independence, demonstrating that with determination and strategic planning, anyone can achieve their financial goals regardless of when they begin. Their insights provide encouragement for those feeling trapped by their current circumstances, spotlighting the importance of prioritizing financial freedom in today's economy.

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Overcoming Financial Independence Myths in High-Cost Living Areas

Achieving financial independence (F.I.) is often viewed as an endeavor suited for those in low-cost living areas, yet many successful stories challenge this narrative. If you live in a high-cost city, such as Los Angeles, it's crucial to adopt the right mindset and strategies to navigate financial independence effectively.

Mindset Shift: Starting Late Doesnā€™t Mean Failure

Starting your financial journey later in life can feel daunting, especially if burdens like student loans and high living expenses cloud your path to F.I. However, embracing a positive mindset is essential. It's not about when you start; it's about how committed you are to making smart financial choices.

  1. Prioritize Your Goals: Clearly define what F.I. means for you. Whether itā€™s enjoying a low-stress lifestyle or saving for early retirement, establish what you value (e.g., flexibility, security, or adventure) and align your spending with those priorities.

  2. Challenge Limiting Beliefs: Many individuals fall into the trap of believing that their circumstancesā€”such as age, income, or locationā€”make financial independence impossible. Recognize these thoughts as barriers, not facts. You have the power to change your narrative.

Strategic Living: Embracing Creative Cost-Cutting

Living in a high-cost area requires creativity in your financial strategy. Here are some actionable steps based on the journeys of successful F.I. advocates like Paige and Sam.

Housing Hacks

  • Roommate Living: Instead of tackling high rents alone, share your living space. Not only does this reduce individual costs, but it also fosters community. Look for shared spaces in safe neighborhoods that may otherwise seem out of reach financially.

  • Choose Fixer-Uppers: Finding a home that others may overlook due to needed repairs can be a golden opportunity. If you're handy or willing to learn DIY skills, these homes allow for lower purchase prices while offering a path to potential value increase over time.

Transportation Strategies

  • Opt for Low-Cost Transport: Instead of a car payment, consider public transport, biking, or walking whenever possible to save on expenses like insurance and maintenance. For those who must drive, purchase older models that are less expensive and can be repaired easily.

Smart Grocery Spending

  1. Batch Cooking: Preparing meals in bulk can significantly cut your food costs. Investing time to cook a weekā€™s worth of meals saves time and money.

  2. Explore Affordable Stores: Develop a habit of shopping in discount stores or markets. Stick to a grocery list to avoid unnecessary purchases and keep food waste to a minimum.

Building Savings and Investment

Alongside reducing costs, maximizing your savings is pivotal in the path to F.I.

  1. Automate Savings: Setting up automatic transfers to saving accounts or investment funds can enhance discipline in saving efforts. Even small amounts add up over time, creating substantial growth.

  2. Utilize Tax-Advantaged Accounts: Consider options like a Roth IRA for tax-free growth or a Health Savings Account (HSA) if eligible. These accounts provide tax benefits while allowing your portfolio to expand organically.

  3. Aim for a High Savings Rate: Having a savings rate of 50% or more can propel you toward achieving F.I. quickly, regardless of income. Track your income and expenses meticulously to optimize your saving habits.

Finding Community and Support

Creating a supportive network is crucial to maintaining motivation in your financial journey. A community of like-minded individuals offers encouragement, advice, and new perspectives.

  1. Join F.I. Groups: Participate in local or online communities where members share insights about their personal finance journeys. Engaging with others can provide valuable lessons and inspiration.

  2. Share Your Story: Consider sharing your own financial journey to motivate others. By discussing challenges and victories, you contribute to the community spirit that fosters growth and resilience.

Embracing a Frugal but Fulfilling Lifestyle

One of the most profound insights from the journeys of those in high-cost living areas is that a frugal lifestyle does not equate to a lack of enjoyment.

  1. Seek Free Experiences: Take advantage of free activities in your city. Los Angeles, for instance, offers numerous parks, museums, and events that enrich your life without straining your budget.

  2. Cultivate DIY Skills: Embrace a do-it-yourself mindset. Learning how to repair household items or perform basic home maintenance not only saves money but also becomes a rewarding endeavor.

Conclusion: You Have the Power

Achieving financial independence in a high-cost living area may require more ingenuity and resolve, but it's certainly within reach. By applying the insights gleaned from those who have successfully navigated these waters, you can chart your own course toward financial freedom.

Reflect on your mindset, absorb strategies for creative cost-cutting, build your savings, find your community, and embrace a fulfilling, frugal lifestyle. The journey to F.I. is not about when you startā€”it's about taking continuous, meaningful action toward your goals. Remember, the best time to make changes was yesterday. The second-best time is now.

In today's podcast we discuss the High Cost of Living Path to FI with ChooseFI community members Paige and Sam who live in Los Angeles and have been pursuing FI in a HCOL with sub-$50,000 per year jobs.

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Podcast Episode Summary

  • Episode 41: A conversation with Paige and Sam about pursuing Financial Independence in a high cost of living area on a lower income
  • Paige pushed back on our limiting belief that you ā€œcanā€™tā€ achieve financial independence on a low income in a high cost of living area
  • Sam introduced Paige to MMM but Paige ran with it from there
  • Paigeā€™s back story
  • Paige had a negative net worth in her mid-40s
  • Since Paige has earned and lived in the $30,000 range she is used to that and now that sheā€™s making more she can save that difference
  • Paige intends to hit early retirement in 2025 and has a 50% savings rate
  • She uses her Roth IRA as an ā€œemergency fundā€ since she can withdraw the contributions at any time tax and penalty free
  • Samā€™s story behind retiring ā€œearly and oftenā€
  • He did not have student loans and also his parents modeled investing for him well before he was earning income himself
  • Samā€™s parents always put gifts and other money into his investing account instead of giving it to him to spend
  • Sam is technically at his FI number, but he does still continue to work
  • Samā€™s history of his apartment renting in Los Angeles and sharing apartments with roommates to lower the costs (over a 20+ year period)
  • Sam has never made more than $50,000 in a year
  • Having to be slightly more intense to reach FI in a low cost of living area. The best way being to live with roommates and not having a car payment
  • They donā€™t buy new items ā€“ the ā€œalley providesā€ and they can find free stuff on the street or at Goodwill, etc.
  • They are very deliberate and intentional about saving money on food and groceries
  • Limiting beliefs on why people like Paige and Sam couldnā€™t retire early and pursue financial independence and why they rejected them
  • The big three items they can control: Housing, Transportation and Food
  • There are so many free activities in a big city, so it is easy to keep a nearly $0 entertainment budget in a city
  • They are not minimalists at all, but they just donā€™t buy new things.
  • Sam is an extreme DIY-er and picks
  • How did Sam become a DIY-er?
  • You donā€™t have to agonize over decisions when you arenā€™t trying to maximize or perfect each buying decision
  • How they approached their home buying decision differently with the mindset of people who can fix essentially anything
  • Buy a house that is just bad enough that the flippers donā€™t want it ā€“ per Paige
  • What is the long-term play for their new house? Do they intend to buy other homes to fix and sell?
  • Extreme ownership of your decisions and knowing what you want
  • Paigeā€™s plan for early retirement and how to make it to 65 and social security where sheā€™ll get a ā€˜big raiseā€™
  • Hot Seat questions

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