featured image for podcast episodeWhole Life Insurance

Whole Life Insurance
Episode 149R

Choose
Posted by Choose FI

Episode Guide

Episode Summary:

Cockamamie schemes in personal finance are often perceived as ridiculous or implausible. This episode highlights Laura's impressive shopping ability, showcasing how she managed to buy $133 worth of clothing for only 80 cents through strategic stacking of discounts and rewards. The hosts, Jonathan Mendonsa and Dominick Quartuccio, discuss the nuances of travel rewards and the importance of understanding financial products like whole life insurance, emphasizing that they can be complicated and often not in the best interest of consumers. They explore the reasons why term insurance is typically recommended over whole life insurance, advocating for a more straightforward approach to financial planning, focusing on self-insurance and market investment strategies. The show also invites listener engagement by encouraging feedback and sharing personal financial wins.

Episode Timestamps

ChooseFI Podcast Episode Show Notes

Episode Summary

Brad and Jonathan explore the intricacies of financial decision-making, sharing insights on shopping strategies and whole life insurance. They highlight remarkable shopping skills as demonstrated by Laura, who acquired $133 worth of items for just 80 cents. The discussion then shifts to whole life insurance, contrasting it with term insurance, and emphasizing the importance of understanding the associated costs and benefits. They challenge common perceptions surrounding whole life insurance as a long-term financial tool and advocate for clearer strategies for individuals seeking financial independence.

Key Topics Discussed

  • Laura's Shopping Success

    • Laura managed to purchase $133 worth of items from Old Navy for only 80 cents.
    • Insight into stacking discounts and knowing store policies for maximizing savings.
  • Whole Life Insurance Discussion

    • Complexities of whole life insurance vs. term insurance.
    • Emphasis on the reasons why whole life insurance is often marketed aggressively and its actual costs.
  • Listener Wins

    • Encouragement of community feedback and sharing success stories about financial decision-making.

Actionable Takeaways

  • Use store rewards wisely to maximize savings.
  • Explore different types of insurance carefully to understand which is best suited for your needs.
  • Be proactive in negotiating recurring expenses to save money.

Timestamps & Highlights

  • - Laura's extraordinary shopping skills demonstrate that knowing the rules can lead to incredible discounts.
  • - Understand the complexities of whole life insurance; it is often sold, not bought.
  • - Empower yourself by making smart financial decisions that put you in control.
  • - Maximize employer benefits; free education opportunities can help save money long term.

Key Quotes

  • "Know the rules of financial independence."
  • "Empower yourself with smart financial decisions."
  • "Negotiate everything: save more by thinking creatively!"

FAQs

  • What shopping strategies can help save money?

    • Knowing store policies and leveraging credit card rewards can lead to significant savings.
  • Why is whole life insurance often considered less favorable compared to term insurance?

    • Whole life insurance is typically more expensive and complicated, making it less ideal for most people.
  • ChooseFI Book - Explore more about financial independence strategies.

Discussion Questions

  • How can understanding shopping strategies change your purchasing behavior?
  • What are some alternatives to whole life insurance?

Conclusion

This episode of ChooseFI delves into effective shopping strategies and the complexities surrounding insurance products, equipping listeners with knowledge to make financially savvy decisions. For more great content on financial independence, tune into future episodes!

Podcast Intro: "You're listening to ChooseFI..."
Podcast Extro: "You've been listening to ChooseFI Podcast..."

Unlocking Financial Independence Through Smart Shopping and Insurance Choices

Achieving financial independence is essential for everyone, and your approach to shopping and understanding insurance plays a pivotal role in this journey. In this article, we'll explore actionable insights from a recent episode of ChooseFI, helping you leverage shopping strategies and make informed decisions about life insurance.

Mastering Shopping Strategies for Maximum Savings

Understanding how to shop effectively can lead to substantial savings and, ultimately, a stronger financial position. Here are some key recommendations to help you become a savvy shopper.

Know the Rules of the Game

Every store has its policies, discounts, and reward systems. Familiarize yourself with these rules to maximize your benefits. For instance, one impressive example shared in our conversation involved Laura, who managed to buy $133 worth of items at Old Navy for just 80 cents. By leveraging reward certificates, stacking sales, and knowing the thresholds for free shipping, she displayed a keen understanding of store policies.

To replicate her success, do the following:

  • Use Store Credit Cards Wisely: These often offer enhanced rewards for spending within the store.
  • Stack Discounts: Look for items on sale and get additional discounts for clearance items or using a loyalty card.

Explore Online Shopping Options

Shopping online expands your choices tremendously. Unlike physical stores limited by inventory, online platforms frequently carry a broader range of sizes and styles, increasing your chances of finding what you need at lower prices. Here are a few strategies for making the most of online shopping:

  • Comparison Shop: Use price comparison tools to find the best deals.
  • Sign Up for Notifications: Many retailers offer discounts or rewards for signing up for emails.

Negotiate for Better Deals

Everything is negotiable, even recurring monthly expenses. Whether it's rent, service fees, or even your subscription costs, don't hesitate to ask for discounts or inquiring about loyalty programs that could lower your bills. Consider trying:

  • Contacting Providers: Approach your internet or phone provider to inquire about promotional deals for long-standing customers.
  • Attempting Bulk Discounts: If you're part of a larger group or community, consider negotiating for bulk or group benefits.

Understanding Whole Life Insurance: Know Before You Buy

Life insurance is crucial to ensuring financial security for your loved ones. However, understanding the nuances between different types of life insurance, especially whole life insurance, is vital. Here’s how to navigate this complex landscape.

Whole Life Insurance vs. Term Insurance

Whole life insurance is often marketed as a long-term solution, but it can come with significant costs and complexities. Compared to term insurance, which simply provides a death benefit for a specific period, whole life is much more expensive and potentially less advantageous for most people.

Here’s what you should know:

  • Cost Comparison: Whole life insurance can be 10 times more expensive than term life insurance. Assess how much you can afford and compare options.
  • Understand the Benefits: While whole life insurance does build cash value over time, the rate of return is typically lower than alternatives like investing in an index fund.

The Complexity of Whole Life Insurance

Recognize that the terms and benefits of whole life insurance can be convoluted, hiding fees and reduced returns. Remember that “whole life insurance is never bought, it's sold.” This means you should be cautious when approached with sales pitches and emotionally charged reasoning for buying this product.

Alternatives to Whole Life Insurance

Instead of whole life insurance, consider:

  • Term Life Insurance: It offers a more cost-effective way to secure a death benefit for your dependents.
  • Investing: Use savings from term life insurance premiums to invest in low-cost index funds, which traditionally yield better returns over time.

Actionable Takeaways for Your Financial Path

To support your journey toward financial independence, keep the following actionable steps in mind:

  • Maximize Store Rewards: Use credit cards wisely to accumulate rewards, and combine discounts strategically to minimize spending.
  • Review Your Insurance Options: Take the time to explore insurance plans that align with your financial goals and needs.
  • Proactively Negotiate Expenses: Ensure you are getting the best deals by regularly negotiating recurring costs, whether it be through providers or service contracts.

Conclusion: Empower Yourself for Financial Independence

Embarking on the path to financial independence requires a proactive approach to both shopping and managing insurance. By mastering shopping strategies, understanding the complexities of life insurance, and making informed decisions, you can take significant steps toward achieving your financial goals.

Take these insights to heart, implement them into your daily life, and watch how they enhance your overall financial health. Financial independence is attainable, and every small step counts toward building a secure future.

Jonathan digs deep comparing whole life insurance and term insurance. Laura gets over $130 of clothes from Old Navy for 80 cents!

[elementor-template id="143609"]

How Laura Broke Old Navy

According to Brad, this may be Laura's best shopping experience of all time. She only paid 80 cents for goods that would normally cost $132.92! The girls and Laura have eight new activewear items to add to their wardrobe for the price tag of 80 cents!

The score started with a standard Old Navy sale. It was offering 50% off the entire site. Plus, an extra 30% off for clearance items. Naturally, Laura shopped through the clearance section to fit some great deals.

Laura also scored free shipping. She needed $50 worth of items in her cart, so she made sure to just hit that threshold. The big savings came from a $50 Old Navy rewards coupon. The coupon effectively eliminated the entire subtotal minus 80 cents. She earned the coupon by being a credit card holder at Old Navy. She uses the card for everyday purchases when she is not trying to score travel rewards sign up bonuses.

Laura knew the rules of the Old Navy game and used them to score an amazing deal. What deals will you find next?

Whole Life Insurance

While talking with a friend, Jonathan was prompted to dive into the entire world of whole life insurance. Although he knew that whole life insurance policies were generally a bad investment, he wanted to find out more about the numbers behind this reality.

Buy term, invest the difference.

It took a lot of digging around to come up with whole life insurance policy rates. With so many different nuances, whole life insurance options are overwhelmingly complex. The complexity itself is a red flag. If a financial product is in your best interest, then it is not complex.

Whole life insurance is never bought, it's sold. It has to be sold becasue no one using common sense with all the information in front of them would voluntarily sign up to pay up to 10 times more for an insurance product.

In his research, Jonathan uncovered two types of life insurance policies for kids through one company. Gerber offers these two policies:

  • The Grow-Up Plan. This is their flagship program that offers standard whole life insurance for your kid.

  • The Life College Plan. This is a whole life insurance policy for you that is marketed to help you save for college with less risk than stocks and more return than savings bonds. At the end of a 10 or 20 year period, your child will receive a payout out or if you die prematurely they will receive a death benefit.

These are fairly standard options in the whole life insurance world. Let's take a closer look.

Related: Insurance--A Framework

The Numbers

With the Life College plan, your kid is guaranteed to receive $32,000 at the end of a 20 year period or a death benefit earlier. If you ever stop making payments at any point, then you would receive nothing. You would need to pay $106/month over 20 years to receive the benefit.

If you chose to invest that $106/month over a 20 year period with an 8% market return, then you would earn nearly $63,000! The contributions alone are worth over $25,000. Even with a top tier bank like CIT Bank, you could earn around 2% interest on the contributions for a grand total of around $31,000 at the end of a 20 year period.

The same Life College plan will allow you to contribute $433/month for 20 years with a guarantee of a $131,000 payout. If you invested this amount of money over a 20 year period with an 8% return, you would accumulate $257,000!

Related: Earn More Interest On Your Emergency Fund: CIT Savings Builder Review

The Heartstrings

The reason that whole life insurance is an option is the heartstrings attached. The salesman pulls at your emotional side to get people to sign up for these plans.

First, they tout the importance of teaching children about finances through insurance. However, there are a million better ways to do this including an allowance or a trip to the bank.

Second, they promote guaranteed insurability. If your child developed a condition that made them uninsurable in the future, the whole life insurance policy you bought for them as a child could come into play. However, this is life insurance working the wrong way. You are supposed to ensure that your family is financially okay if you die early, not the other way around.

Buy Term, Invest The Difference

Jonathan and his friend compared their numbers to get a better understanding of their policies. Jonathan has an $800,000 term life insurance plan that costs $30/month. His friend has a $300,000 to $500,000 whole life insurance plan that costs $250/month.

If Jonathan invests the difference of $220 into the market with 8% returns over a 20 year period, his investment account would be worth around $130,000. Let's say he leaves that money untouched in his investment account until he dies at 80 years old without any other contributions, it would be worth around $961,000.

The numbers of these policies speak for themselves!

Related: Get The Best Price On Life Insurance With Policygenius

OnTrajectory

Brad and Jonathan are looking forward to testing out OnTrajectory for themselves. Let us know what you think about this robust planning tool! Click here to get a free trial of this software.

Check out the full episode about OnTrajectory with Tyson Koska here.

Community Feedback

Let's hear what is going on in the community this week.

Win For Denise

Denise and her husband did something 'crazy.' They sold their 4/4 house in northern Virginia that was costing them around $5,000 a month to maintain. The house felt akin to throwing away their money into a very fancy garbage can.

After making the sale, they moved into a rental nearby. Now, they are getting themselves set up for success in the future. Congrats!

Win For Javier

Javier became a lifetime member at his Crossfit gym for $3,500! That cut out a recurring annual expense of $1,800 and will allow him to enjoy Crossfit as often as he would like.

Simply by asking, Javier was able to score a lifetime membership and shave $45,000 off of his FI number. Congrats!

Terry's RA Advice

Terry called in to add on to Anthony Gary's advice about becoming an RA. After college, RAs can become hall directors or community supervisors. Most schools pay around $15k to $40k per year, plus free housing.

In Terry's case, he earned $18k/year plus free housing. He also earned his master's degree for free since he was a school employee. Check out your options here.

Anthony's Advice On Negotiation

Anthony Gary, from episode 138, called in to share his thoughts on Tori Dunlap's salary negotiation tips. He wanted to point out other things to negotiate besides salary.

Some things to consider include your start date, COBRA costs, technology stipends, sign-on bonus, gym membership, work from home options, vacation days, and more. He shared his guide on negotiating your salary which can be found here.

Listen: How To Get Paid To Go To College With Gary Anthony

Win For Jennifer

Jennifer's 1992 Honda Civic has hit 265,ooo miles! After 30 years on the road, this is extremely impressive.

Related: Longest Lasting Cars On The Road Today.

Call For Wins

At the end of the year, we are dedicating an episode to wins from the community. Please send in your win! Send us a voicemail or shoot us an email at [email protected].

Help us inspire the community!

Cities of FI

Please take a few minutes to fill out of survey about the best cities of FI. We appreciate your help!

Related Episodes: