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Hacking The FAFSA | Brian Eufinger & Seonwoo Lee
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Episode Summary:

Understanding how to navigate the FAFSA and optimize college funding is crucial for families planning for higher education. The episode delves into defining essential terms like Expected Family Contribution (EFC) and Cost of Attendance (COA), explaining how these figures impact financial aid eligibility. Experts Brian Eufinger and Sunwoo share insights on the intricacies of financial aid applications, including how to structure assets favorably, the importance of listing schools that do not practice gapping, and the implications of using 529 plans versus UTMA accounts. The conversation emphasizes early planning and knowledge as key strategies in avoiding the pitfalls of the college financial aid system. Listeners gain actionable tips on maximizing aid and making informed decisions for their children\u2019s education funding.

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Episode Title: Hacking the FAFSA: Mastering Financial Aid Strategies for College
Hosts: Brad Barrett and Jonathan Mendonsa
Guests: Brian Eufinger and Sun Wu
Episode Summary: In this episode of ChooseFI, the hosts delve into the complexities of FAFSA, offering listeners crucial insights into financial aid strategies. Brian Eufinger and Sun Wu share their expertise on navigating the FAFSA process, understanding the Expected Family Contribution (EFC), and optimizing asset management for college funding.


Key Topics Discussed

  • Introduction to FAFSA

    Brad introduces the episode, emphasizing the importance of understanding FAFSA and the rules surrounding financial aid.

  • Understanding EFC and COA

    The discussion covers the Expected Family Contribution (EFC) and Cost of Attendance (COA), explaining how they impact financial aid.

  • Maximizing Financial Aid

    Strategies and importance of applying for financial aid and understanding the types of aid available.

  • Asset Assessments

    An examination of how student and parental assets are assessed in determining EFC.

  • Strategies for 529 Plans

    The hosts discuss the benefits of 529 plans for saving for college and how they can minimize the impact on financial aid.


Actionable Takeaways

  • Plan Early: Start planning your finances early to optimize your EFC for college funding. [Timestamp: 00:07:11]

  • Use 529 Plans: Consider using 529 plans for tax advantages when saving for college. [Timestamp: 00:32:20]


Important Quotes

  • "The more information you have and the more time you have to plan, the better result you're going to have."

  • "Understanding the rules is crucial for financial success."


  • FAFSA Forecaster Tool: FAFSA Tool [Timestamp: 00:04:00]

  • CSS Profile Information: CSS Profile [Timestamp: 00:17:49]


Frequently Asked Questions

  • What is the Expected Family Contribution (EFC)?
    EFC is the amount that the government expects a family to contribute towards college expenses, calculated based on financial information provided through the FAFSA. [Timestamp: 00:03:32]

  • How do gapping and financial aid work?
    Gapping is when colleges offer less financial aid than what is needed based on a student's EFC, potentially leaving families with unexpected expenses. [Timestamp: 00:09:13]

  • What is the difference between FAFSA and CSS Profile?
    FAFSA is a federal form used for financial aid at most colleges, while CSS Profile is a detailed application used by private institutions. [Timestamp: 00:17:49]


Discussion Questions

  • What strategies have you implemented to maximize financial aid? [Timestamp: 00:07:11]

  • How do you feel about the current college funding system? [Timestamp: 00:30:06]


Chapter Markers

  • Introduction to FAFSA
  • Understanding EFC and COA
  • Maximizing Financial Aid
  • Asset Assessments
  • Strategies for 529 Plans

Podcast Description

ChooseFI is your go-to source for achieving financial independence. This episode delves into the intricacies of FAFSA, financial aid strategies, and optimizing college funding.


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Maximizing Financial Aid: A Guide to FAFSA and Beyond

Navigating the financial aid landscape for college can be complex, but understanding key concepts like FAFSA, Expected Family Contribution (EFC), and Cost of Attendance (COA) can empower you to secure the funding your family needs. This guide distills the insights from experts Brian Eufinger and Sun Wu into actionable strategies for optimizing financial aid applications.

Understanding the Essentials

What is FAFSA?

The Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) is the federal form used to apply for financial aid. It plays a critical role in determining the EFC, which indicates how much your family is expected to contribute toward college expenses.

Expected Family Contribution (EFC)

EFC is the amount the federal government expects your family to contribute towards college costs. This figure is calculated based on financial information provided in your FAFSA. Understanding EFC is crucial because it directly affects the amount of aid your family may receive.

Cost of Attendance (COA)

COA encompasses all costs associated with attending a college, which may include tuition, room and board, fees, books, and supplies. It is essential to distinguish between COA and EFC to understand gaps in funding.

Planning Ahead for Financial Success

Early Financial Planning

Start planning your finances early to help optimize your EFC for college funding. Engaging in early discussions about finances can lead to better outcomes; having more information and time can significantly diminish stress as your child approaches college.

Asset Management

Consider how assets are reported on the FAFSA. Assets are assessed differently for students and parents, with student assets (20%) weighted more heavily than parental assets (5.64%). Therefore, if saving for education, it may be more beneficial to hold funds in parents' names rather than in the student's name.

Strategies to Maximize Financial Aid

Fill Out FAFSA Early

Complete your FAFSA as soon as possible after October 1 of your child’s senior year in high school. Filling it out early ensures you are eligible for all available aid and allows for better planning.

Avoid Gapping

Gapping occurs when a college provides less aid than the calculated need, leaving families responsible for the difference. Research schools to identify those that do not practice gapping. Schools with a commitment to meet full need are often those with substantial endowments.

Utilizing 529 Plans for Tax Benefits

Benefits of 529 Plans

529 plans are designed to help families save for college expenses. Contributions grow tax-free when used for qualifying educational expenses. When saving for education, using a 529 can be beneficial:

  • Parental Asset Treatment: If you are the custodian of a 529 plan, it is considered a parental asset and is assessed at a lower rate for financial aid.

  • Tax Advantages: Many states provide tax deductions for contributions to their 529 plans, which can enhance your savings strategy.

Strategies for Using 529 Plans

If grandparents or trusted relatives are willing, consider opening a 529 plan in their name. Withdrawals for educational expenses can be executed in the junior year of college, allowing time for the funds not to be counted against your financial aid.

The Importance of Timing and Structure

Effective Asset Timing

Consider the timing of asset transfers and withdrawals. If you manage your assets thoughtfully, strategically moving money or withdrawing funds from accounts can minimize their impact on your EFC.

Be Cautious with Loans

While federal student loans, including subsidized Stafford loans, can be a lifesaver, they also add to the overall cost of education. Always fully understand the implications of different loan types before accepting them as part of your college funding strategy.

Clarifying FAFSA versus CSS Profile

Understanding the difference between FAFSA and the CSS Profile (used by some private colleges for additional financial information) is essential. The CSS Profile is generally more detailed and may require more nuanced financial disclosures. Research your prospective schools to determine which form they require; this will help tailor your overall strategy based on their specific criteria.

Overcoming Common Pitfalls

Scholarship Clawbacks

Be aware of potential clawbacks of scholarships awarded by schools. Some institutions may reduce their financial offerings as a result of external scholarships awarded to students. Always inquire about policies early in the admissions process to avoid unexpected financial pitfalls.

Asset Protection

Consider utilizing home equity as a funding strategy. If your family has significant assets but wants to maximize eligibility for financial aid, focusing on paying down mortgages and using home equity might shield some assets from being counted.

Conclusion

Successfully navigating the financial aid landscape requires proactive planning and a solid understanding of the mechanics behind FAFSA, EFC, and COA. By implementing these strategies, families can maximize their financial aid opportunities, minimize costs, and secure a brighter financial future for their children's education.

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Graduating from college debt-free can accelerate the path to FI dramatically. Brian Eufinger and Seonwoo Lee share their best tips on hacking the FAFSA on today's episode.

Hacking The FAFSA

The FAFSA, Free Application for Federal Student Aid, helps colleges determine how much student aid your student will receive. Understanding how the FAFSA works could save your child thousands with preparation.

It's about knowing the rules. Right, there are very specific rules in life, in all aspects. And the more information you have and the more time you have to plan, the better result you're going to have. And college and college aid is a very high dollar figure issue that many of us are going to be dealing with, either for ourselves or our kids.

Let's start with understanding the terms and the rules surrounding the FAFSA.

The expected family contribution (EFC) is what colleges expect the parents to pay. After filling out the FAFSA, the EFC will be automatically calculated.

Of course, many parents take issue with this because they are unable or unwilling to contribute to the determined EFC. You can use tools like the FAFSA forecaster to determine your EFC in the years leading up to your child's first year of college. The EFC is based on both the parent's and the child's assets. As college gets more expensive, parents are finding that the EFC for each year is becoming too high.

The cost of attendance (COA) offers a more comprehensive picture of the cost of college. It includes tuition as well as technology fees, room and board, books, parking fees, student fees, and more.

If you are unable to meet the EFC at a school, there are many ways to make up the difference. A few include unsubsidized loans, subsidized loans, parent PLUS loans, private loans, kid's savings, generous grandparents, and more. For example, if you receive an EFC of $10,000 but the university costs $50,000, the difference could be made up of loans and other things.

Full Need Vs. Gapping

Through assistance, some schools promise to meet the full need of the student but others practice gapping. Schools that promise to meet full need generally have larger endowments on a per-student basis. With a heavier endowment, they are more able to meet full need assistance promises.

List of schools that promise to meet full need.

Full need assistance can come in many ways including grants, loans, work-study jobs, and private loans. In a perfect world, all students would be able to have their aid met based on the gap in their needs. However, some schools are unable to do this. This practice is called 'gapping.' The school basically says that they are unable to help you meet the difference in aid vs. need.

What Determines Your EFC

When filling out the FAFSA, it is divided into sections; parents and students. Student income is weighted the highest. The government expects that students contribute 50% of their income and 20% of their assets to their college expenses. Since you have to fill out the FAFSA four times, your EFC may change slightly every year, they are a good place to start.

As an example, let's say the student has $10,000 in various accounts. 20% would be assessed the first year and go into the EFC. In the second year, there would only be $8,000 to add into the EFC.

Parental assets and income are assessed on a progressive scale, in a similar way to taxes. The assessment for parent's income cap out at 40% and 5.64% for assets.

If you expect that you will be eligible for aid, then having money in your kid's name is not optimal. Of course, if you don’t expect to get any aid at all then you just shouldn’t worry about it.

As far as parental assets, the assets are assessed two calendar years back. So, the parent of a rising senior cannot simply move assets around this year. They would need to do that at least two years in advance if they planned to avoid college costs by moving assets around. So, if your child was going to college in fall 2019, the FAFSA would ask for 2017 tax returns.

Who Should Fill Out The FAFSA?

College is a big purchase, a little bit of financial aid could go a long way. With that in mind, everyone should fill out the FAFSA. Even if you don't expect to receive any aid, it never hurts to apply.

There are three kinds of applicants. The first has a high income with little chance of receiving aid. The second is someone that could optimize their finances and potentially qualify for some aid. The third is someone that is an obvious choice for financial aid but may still need to optimize.

Although stylish pessimism is prevalence among high-income families, it is important to apply anyways. In one example, a high earning surgeon in Atlanta had four kids attending expensive colleges at the same time. She filled out the FAFSA and got a little bit of help on tuition.

The more important reason to fill out the FAFSA is that some schools require you to fill it out in order to compete for their 'merit aid.' Unfortunately, it seems likely that the financial position of the student is factored into their merit decisions.

What Is The CSS Profile?

The College Board's CSS profile is similar to the FAFSA but some schools opt to use this financial aid form instead. It is a longer form that asks for more details of the family's financial situation. Broadly speaking, the CSS Profile is used by private schools while the FAFSA is used by public schools. The information uncovered by the CSS Profile will be used by each school differently.

The CSS Profile handles financial information differently than the FAFSA. One difference is the parental income of blended families. If there are step-parents involved, then their income may not be counted. Make sure to look into the rules for residency requirements of in-state tuition if parents live in different states.

You can optimize for the CSS Profile instead of the FAFSA if your student prefers schools that use this form.

Overall, Seonwoo does not see a situation where the CSS profile works to your benefit. Plus, there is a fee for the CSS Profile while the FAFSA is free.

List of schools that use the CSS profile.

Tips To Optimize

If you have limited means, you will look good on either form. If you have more means, then it can be more difficult to receive aid through either form. However, there are ways to optimize your assets ahead of time.

If you are a W2 earner with significant assets, then consider making extra mortgage payments. The FAFSA does not ask about your home equity in a personal residence. One helpful dad had an extensive emergency fund of $110,000 through Ally bank. He decided to pour that money into the mortgage and open a HELOC for the same amount. He essentially eliminated $110,000 in assets that will be considered by the FAFSA.

Listen: Letting Go Of The Emergency Fund

In general, income is income. Whatever assets you report on your taxes will need to be reported on the FAFSA. However, it will add any retirement contribution deductions back in to determine your gross income. Also, interest and dividends earned are treated the exact same way.

Another important tip is to make sure you are getting current and up to date information. If you discover an article from a few years ago, it's very likely the rules have changed and it is old news.

Pitfalls To Consider

A lot of families create college lists with safety schools, target schools, and reached. Mostly, they look like a bell curve of admission difficulty.

Brian recommended a 2 axis approach. In addition to admission difficulty, the affordability of the college should be considered. Too many families just apply to a bunch of schools and hope for the best in terms of financial aid. It can lead to heartbreaking choices later in the year.

The two-axis approach would create four quadrants.

  • Easy admission and affordable.
  • Affordable but difficult to get in.
  • Expensive and easy to get in.
  • Expensive and difficult to get in.

Encourage your students to find schools in each quadrant.

Funding Vehicles

If you are helping your child fund their college expenses, then set aside any parent Plus or other loan options. Instead, consider 529 plans and UTMA options as a solution.

529 Plan

There are two types of 529 plans. The first is an investment vehicle similar to a Roth IRA for expenses. As long as you use the funds for education, there are no taxes on the growth. If you don't use the funds for education, there is a 10% penalty on the gains. The second option is a prepaid 529 plan. In other words, you prepay for a semester of college at a time.

If you are going to set aside money for your kids, in general, the 529 is a pretty good option.

With a 529, there is always a custodian and beneficiary. If you are the custodian, then you are the owner in the eyes of the FAFSA.

You can optimize this if you have trustworthy grandparents in the picture. They can open a 529 plan that you fund. When you fill out the FAFSA, the 529 assets are not reported because grandparent's assets are not included. When you take the money out, it will be reported as untaxed income on the FAFSA. So, if you take it out the junior year of college, then these funds will not affect your aid.

Not all 529 plans are created equally. The quality varies dramatically by state. However, even if it has fees it might be worth using depending on the tax deduction benefit. You may be able to open a 529 account in your state and roll it into another state's 529 plan. Most states do not recapture your contributions deduction.

Here are the states that don't recapture the tax deduction.

You don't need to do anything specific to rollover your funds between 529s. It is possible to do this year after year to capture the tax benefits and avoid the fees of your state's plan.

UTMA

In general, a UTMA is not a good way to maximize aid. A UTMA stands for the Uniform Transfers to Minors Act. Depending on your state, you can transfer assets accumulated into a UTMA to your child at either 18 or 21. As soon as a student gets control, it will qualify as a student asset and get assessed at 20% on the FAFSA.

The biggest benefit to a UTMA is that your child can use this money on things other than education.

Order Of Priority

Maximizing financial aid is not a one-size-fits-all process. Here are some general guidelines to consider:

  • Use up any non-retirement assets in your child's name.
  • Don't use retirement accounts to fund your child's education.
  • Use assets in your taxable account first if you know that all the funds in the 529 will be spent.
  • Be aware of who has the assets.
  • If your kid gets a scholarship, then you can withdraw the amount of the scholarship from your 529 penalty-free.
  • Different schools have different rules about scholarships. Some do not allow kids to stack scholarships while others do. Be mindful of that while applying to schools.

Overall, the early planner is rewarded. Take this into consideration as your kids approach college age.

How To Connect

Brain Eufinger through his Edison Prep tutoring service based in Atlanta.

Seonwoo Lee at blog.seonwoolee.com.

Listen to the Friday Roundup of this episode here.

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