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Paul Merriman Introduces The Ultimate Buy And Hold Portfolio
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Episode Summary:

The conversation revolves around the integration of different investment strategies, focusing on the insights provided by Paul Merriman, a renowned figure in the investment community. Key highlights include the comparison between the simple path to wealth and Merriman's ultimate buy-and-hold portfolio approach. Key takeaways include the importance of understanding one's risk tolerance, the psychological aspects of investing, and the benefits of diversification across various asset classes. Merriman emphasizes the historic performance of small-cap value and how it can enhance long-term gains while advising on the simplicity of investment strategies to mitigate emotional responses during market fluctuations. The potential for increasing returns with a multi-faceted investment approach is discussed, along with actionable advice for DIY investors to simplify their decision-making processes.

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Episode Title: Investment Strategies with Paul Merriman

Episode Summary: Paul Merriman shares his compelling backstory and investment insights, emphasizing the importance of understanding personal financial strategies for long-term success. He contrasts various investing frameworks, including J.L. Collins' Simple Path to Wealth and his own Ultimate Buy and Hold Portfolio. Merriman explains how emotional resilience and understanding market psychology are critical for staying the course during market downturns. By recommending a diversified portfolio and elucidating the merits of small-cap value, he provides actionable advice for building wealth.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Introduction to Paul Merriman

    • Background as a stockbroker and transition to financial education.
  • Paul's Backstory

    • His journey in the investment community and founding his advisory firm.
  • Understanding Investing Strategies

    • Overview of various investment strategies emphasizing buy-and-hold and index investing.
  • The Role of Small-Cap Value

    • Definition and importance of small-cap value stocks in an investment portfolio.
  • Building a Diversified Portfolio

    • The significance of diversifying across different asset classes.
  • The Hot Seat Questions

    • Rapid-fire questions covering his favorite blog, biggest financial mistake, life hack, and advice for younger investors.

Key Takeaways:

  • Define Your 'Enough'

    • Knowing what is enough can simplify your investing journey.
  • Focus on Losses, Not Just Returns

    • Maintain a healthier investment mindset by understanding the implications of potential losses.
  • Maximize Your Investments

    • Diversification reduces the risk of losing money from individual stocks.
  • Prepare for Less Than Expected Returns

    • Always save more to offset potential lower-than-expected market returns.

Actionable Insights:

  • Understand your emotional resilience in investments.
  • Focus on maintaining diversification in your portfolio.
  • Consider a glide path strategy to manage investment risk as you age.

FAQs:

  • What is small-cap value and why is it important?

    • Small-cap value refers to undervalued companies with small market capitalizations that generally outperform larger companies in the long term.
  • How can I prepare for market downturns?

    • Maintain a diversified portfolio and understand your individual risk tolerance.
  • What is the difference between cap-weighted and equal-weighted funds?

    • Cap-weighted funds allocate more heavily to larger companies, whereas equal-weighted funds give equal investment across all companies.

Speaker Highlights:

  • Paul Merriman - Investor and educator with decades of experience in the finance industry and founder of Merriman Wealth Management.
  • Brad Barrett - Co-host of ChooseFI, passionate about financial independence and teaching others about investing.

Related Resources:

Notable Quotes:

  • "Emotional resilience is key to stay the course while investing."
  • "Celebrate bear markets as opportunities to buy great assets at lower prices."

Discussion Questions:

  1. What are the benefits of small-cap value in a portfolio?
  2. How can investors manage psychological hurdles in the market?
  3. What actions can investors take during market downturns to remain calm?

Podcast Description: Join us as we explore investment strategies with Paul Merriman, emphasizing the Ultimate Buy and Hold Portfolio and the significance of small-cap value.

Email Campaigns:

  • Discover the benefits of small-cap value and how it can enhance your investment portfolio.
  • Learn how to stay emotionally resilient when investing during market fluctuations.

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Master Your Investing Strategy with Paul Merriman

In the pursuit of financial independence, understanding effective investing strategies is crucial. Paul Merriman, an established investor and educator, shares his insights on building a diversified portfolio and maintaining emotional resilience in the face of market volatility. Here’s how you can implement these valuable strategies into your own investing journey.

Define Your “Enough”

Before diving into the technicalities of investing, take a moment to define what "enough" means for you. This concept simplifies your investing choices. When you articulate a clear financial goal, it guides your decisions and reinforces your patience in the market. Remember, if your expected returns exceed your defined "enough," you may be setting yourself up for disappointment.

Key Takeaway: Define your “enough” to simplify your investing journey.

Embrace Emotional Resilience

Investing isn't just about numbers; your mindset plays a crucial role. Emotional resilience helps you stay committed to your long-term strategy. Understand that market declines, often perceived as setbacks, can actually provide excellent buying opportunities.

Key Takeaway: Cultivate emotional resilience in your investing strategy.

Understanding Asset Classes

Investments can be categorized into asset classes such as stocks, bonds, and real estate. Recognizing the differences between these classes, including small-cap value versus large-cap growth, is crucial for your portfolio diversification.

  • Small-Cap Value: Stocks of smaller companies that tend to outperform larger companies in the long run. They often represent companies that are undervalued yet poised for growth.
  • Large-Cap Growth: These stocks generally belong to well-established companies with solid earnings records. They can provide stability but may underperform during market fluctuations.

Key Takeaway: Diversify across both small-cap and large-cap companies to balance potential high returns with stability.

Build a Diversified Portfolio

A well-diversified investment portfolio minimizes risk and optimizes potential returns. Merriman emphasizes the importance of mixing various asset classes to achieve better overall performance. This can encompass:

  1. Index Funds: These are designed to replicate the performance of a particular index and offer broad market exposure at low costs.
  2. Target Date Funds: Automatically adjust the asset mix as the target date approaches, offering a simple way to maintain an appropriate risk level as you age.

Key Takeaway: Create a portfolio that balances risk across various asset classes.

The Power of Dollar-Cost Averaging

Adopting a dollar-cost averaging strategy can significantly mitigate the emotional stress associated with market fluctuations. By investing a fixed amount at regular intervals, you reduce the impact of volatility on your overall investment.

Key Takeaway: Invest regularly regardless of market conditions to smooth out the effects of volatility.

The Ultimate Buy and Hold Strategy

Merriman recommends an ultimate buy and hold strategy that involves maintaining a diverse portfolio across various asset classes. This approach not only captures the growth of different sectors but also helps navigate market inconsistencies.

To implement this strategy:

  • Consider a small allocation in small-cap value funds to enhance growth potential.
  • Regularly rebalance your portfolio to maintain your desired asset allocation.

Key Takeaway: Embrace a buy and hold strategy to capitalize on long-term market growth.

Preparing for Market Downturns

Anticipating market downturns is a reality every investor faces. The key is not to panic but to understand your risk tolerance and maintain a diversified portfolio. Prepare yourself mentally for the inevitability of market cycles; they are part of the investment journey.

Key Takeaway: Understand your risk tolerance and stick to your diversified investment plan during downturns.

Managing Investment Expectations

Investing comes with inherent risks, and it's essential to prepare for less than expected returns. Historical data reveals that even established equities have periods of underperformance. By setting realistic expectations, you are less likely to be swayed by market news or emotional reactions.

Key Takeaway: Prepare for lower-than-expected returns to avoid disappointment.

Utilize Resources Wisely

There are countless resources available for investors, such as Merriman's website and various financial tools. Utilize these resources to stay informed and adapt your strategy as necessary.

  • Financial Advisors: If you're unsure, consider working with a financial advisor who aligns with your investment philosophy.
  • Education: Attend workshops, read books, and consume credible financial content to enhance your understanding.

Key Takeaway: Leverage available resources to stay educated and refine your investment approach.

Conclusion

Implementing the insights from Paul Merriman can transform your investing journey. By defining your “enough,” cultivating emotional resilience, diversifying your portfolio, and embracing a long-term investing mindset, you can enhance your likelihood of achieving financial independence. Each traveler on this path must equip themselves with knowledge, patience, and a robust strategy to succeed in the world of investing.

Engage with your own financial future today and remember: investing is not merely about wealth accumulation; it’s about making informed decisions that align with your long-term goals.

Jonathan and Brad talk to Paul Merriman. The goal is to contrast the "Simple Path to Wealth Approach" with the "Ultimate Buy and Hold Portfolio." Paul is a proponent of the Ultimate Buy and Hold strategy and a legend in this space. The insights Paul provides about this strategy are priceless.

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Paul Merriman's Story

Paul started his career as a stockbroker. However, he quickly began to question the fact that he was told by his boss what to sell and when to sell it, and the obvious conflicts of interest. So, he decided to change career paths.

From 1969 to 1983 he did a myriad of things. Eventually, he reached a state of Financial Independence that allowed him to not have to work. At age 40, he was able to choose to work as something that he just loved to do.

Paul chose to start an investment advisory firm, without any money under management. He just started teaching people about their finances. With the help of many people, he was able to build a very successful investment advisory firm. By the time of his second retirement in 2012, the firm had over $1.6 billion under management.

 I am not a financial planner. I am not a security analyst. I am a guy that has been around the investment community now for literally all of my adult life. And I love teaching people how to do this on their own.

Paul started this investment advisory firm without the need for an income. However, Paul freely admits that he is a workaholic, so he really needed to pour his energy into something that he loved doing.

How Paul Built The Firm

His business model for building this company was simple. Paul conducted hundreds of workshops for investors. The goal of the workshop was to teach DIY investors how to do it themselves effectively.

The workshops were several hours long and packed with useful investment information. In many cases, he would be able to teach the attendees enough to build their own investment portfolio without his help. However, at the end of the workshop, he would offer the attendees a free consultation. If at the end of the consultation the client could hire Paul's team to do it for them, if they wanted.

The free consultation worked out for both parties because Paul was retired and did not need to "close the sale" to make a living.

What I liked about it, as a business model, is it eliminated the conflict of interest that you have when the only answer at the end of the sale's pitch is "you have to do business with me." I took the approach "Let me show you how to do it on your own. Now I'm retired and all the work I do, is for people that are doing it on their own."

Basically, Paul would show the DIY investor how they should invest the money in his opinion. The investor could walk away and put that plan into action themselves, or hire Paul's firm to do it for them.

What Did Paul Teach At His Workshops?

The workshops started with teaching the students how to understand the investment process.

We have to figure out who we can trust. If we can figure out the right person or organization or group of people, whatever it might be, that we can trust, then we can move forward to apply that information that they have handed us.

So, where can we look to for information?

  • Wall Street: However, they do not have a good reputation for honesty.
  • Main Street: Friends and neighbors may offer investment advice but we don't really know how much they know.
  • University Street: The academic community is one place that we can trust to provide unbiased information about investing. Paul looks to University Street to build investment strategies.

How To Simplify Investing

Wherever you choose to gather your investment information, it will often seem overwhelming to a beginner. However, it does not have to be.

It's very simple as long as we never have to make more than one decision at a time. [For example] buy and hold versus timing. Load versus no load. Mutual funds versus individual stocks. If we can boil everything down into these simple forks in the road, it's pretty easy to teach people how to be a successful investor.

The process can be broken down pretty easily and once you understand the forks in the road, anyone can handle it.

Forks In The Road

When broken down into simple choices along the way, your path to building the right strategy for you will become easier.

Who Are You?

First, people need to understand who they are, where they are, and where they need to go. And that has, in many ways, very little to do with dealing with all those forks in the road. Because if you don't understand yourself,...the emotional hurdles of investing, those are the things that get us into trouble.

If you do not understand yourself, then the emotional burdens of investing will present roadblocks. Although investing in a diverse portfolio on a budget has never been easier to do, the question is can you buy and hold?

If you cannot buy and hold, then it will be more challenging to be a successful investor. It is important to know that about yourself now. If you know that now, then you can learn ways to work within your risk tolerance. Knowing what risks you are willing to take before you feel compelled to sell your portfolio when the market dips keeps you from making decisions in fear.

If you can find the combination of an investment that can give a decent rate of return within your risk tolerance, then maybe you could turn yourself from a ICSIA (I Can't Stand It Anymore) market timer into a "legitimate buy and holder" who will be able to stay the course.

Once you understand yourself, then it is time to look at the asset classes that could work for you.

Can You Stay The Course?

The challenge for all investors is that everyone comes to the table with different experiences, information, wants, and fears. Paul has worked to teach people that the right thing to do is stay the course, even if it feels terrifying.

He gave the example of an investor that invested $1,000 in small-cap value stock in 1929. By 1938, that investment would have been down to around $400. It could feel like a stroke of bad luck to anyone attempting to retire young. However, if the investor continued to invest $100 a year, over that 10 year period, the portfolio would have ended with $1,600 in 1938. Those were the 10 worst years in market history, but the investor would have been okay.

The goal of this lesson is to teach people to start investing young. Celebrate the bear markets and use that as an opportunity to buy great asset classes at a lower price!

What Asset Classes Should You Consider?

The goal is to get the best assets into your portfolio with the best diversification. The idea is to keep it very simple and follow forks in the road until you've built the best portfolio for you. It is common for investors to want to own good or great companies over a long period of time. But by taking research from University Street, there are other options to building your wealth.

Value Or "Out Of Favor" Companies

For example, over the course of the past 91 years, there is a group of value or "out of favor" companies that people don't want to own. However, the academics have found that the group of companies that are "out of favor" actually have the best returns in the long term. Those returns don't come out of greatness. The better returns come because you took more risk.

Smaller Companies

The academics have also found that smaller companies can carry a higher rate of return but it's because they have more risk. And sometimes there are hidden gems in that category.

When you are young and can afford the risk, you can put together the small and "out of favor" companies to create the most profitable asset class for the long-term. But it is because these are riskier investments. You are taking a chance on greatness.

Overall, Paul wants a portfolio to include small and large companies. Plus, value and growth companies. The key is to find the balance that works best for you.

Terms to Know

When you are exploring your investment portfolio options, these are some good terms to know.

Value: (Out of Favor) Companies that have a relatively high book value (the real net worth of the company) compared to their market price. Think of companies not well known or popular. Many value companies get turned around to have great futures.

Growth: Companies that have a very high price to earnings ratio. These companies are priced at a much higher value than their book value because people want to participate in the future that this company hopes to build. Think of popular companies. Sometimes, these companies can drop in value dramatically.

This is the capitalistic system. When there is an opportunity for people to make money on something, they are going to try to make money and that's what happens to a lot of value companies. They get turned around and have great futures and a lot of those popular growth companies...all of a sudden are not so attractive...because they are priced at such very high prices they can fall like a rock. I'm not saying don't own those great growth companies I want to own the growth. I want to own the value. I want to the large... and I want to own the small.

Active Vs. Passive Management

Active managers are trying to beat the market. If they can't beat the market, then why would we pay them to manage our money. Typically, they look for good stocks at a good pick and attempt to time the market.

A passively managed index fund has hundreds or thousands of companies in its portfolio. These are not trying to beat the market, instead, they are trying to be the market.

Each year, S&P puts out the SPIVA report that tracks the performance of active managers and passive indexes, the benchmark. The bottom line is that most active managers cannot beat the market. Only about 3-7% of managers effectively do better with returns than the market.

So the question is: Do I think that I have the ability to choose an actively managed fund that will beat the benchmark?

Also, if you know that the benchmark would be "enough," then why would you try to beat the market. If you aren't sure what "enough" is, consider reading John Bogles' Enough.

Instead of picking stocks, you could build a portfolio with thousands of stocks that can bring you the market returns. This strategy can also bring an investor peace of mind.

If you own them all, then you don't have to worry about any individual stock. The only thing you have to worry about is how much you are going to lose along the way.

Paul warns that if you follow his advice, you will lose money along the way. It's the only guarantee in investing. The question is how much, for how long, and what to do if you are not able to handle that. Solve those questions and then you have become a competent investor.

Numbers Of The Market

Paul takes us through the history and the numbers of the stock market. Sometimes it has nothing to do with you.

Ah, the worst and the best? That is the right question to ask, because we sell the best. That's wall street, selling the best. And we need to understand the worst [of what can happen].

If you look at the S&P 500 over the last 91 years, the rate of return was 9.7% during a period of time when inflation was about 3%.

However, if you look at every 40 year period, then the average rate of return jumps to 10.9%. The jump in returns is due to the blood bath of the late 1920s and early 1930s. When you remove those numbers, then the market returns are even better. In fact, the very best 40 year period of the S&P 500 had a rate of return of 12.5%. The worst 40 year period had a rate of return of 8.9%.

If you build your portfolio out over 40 years, you may decide to best prepare by assuming that you will be stuck with the lowest historical rate of return. However, you will need to factor in the fluctuations that happen in shorter time frames. Such as the period of 1975 to 1999 when the market rate of return was over 17% and the period of 2000 to 2018 when the market rate of return was less than 6%.

We can do all the right things, believe all the right things, be patient, be disciplined, save lots of money--But the market doesn't hand us the premium we thought we were going to get, which is why I try to teach people--Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

In the end, saving more money is the best defense we have to protect against bad luck. Luckily, our community is already working towards increasing our savings rates.

Increase Your Odds Of Success

The biggest hurdle to success is the psychological barriers within our human nature. However, if you can pursue a buy and hold strategy, then you could increase your odds for success in several ways.

The goal is to expand your portfolio beyond the highest quality asset classes such as the S&P 500. Paul is advocating that investors should add some additional asset classes including large growth and value companies, small-cap, international asset classes, and REITs. The beauty is that the volatility of the sum total of this group is about the same as the S&P 500 but the returns can be as much as 2% higher each year. The key is that no single asset class can be more than 10% of your portfolio.

There is NO magic way. The best magic that, I think, people can create is to, upfront, decide what asset classes have a history of success...Better returns [come] from taking more risk. This is not free lunch...all that matters is what the market as a whole does.

Of course, this is not a free lunch! If you buy a diverse set of asset classes in the correct way, then you could reduce the risk and emotional costs that can dissuade investors from staying the course.

Four percent of the companies account for most of the earnings of that famous 10% compound rate of return that we talk about getting from the the stock market...The other 96%, on average, made the same rate of return as treasury bills...about 3% over that same period...If I'm going to try to pick stocks, what happens if I don't get ANY of those 4% and only get those in the other 96%?...If you want to get the market rate of return, own them all because that is going to give you the end result of the whole system.

The market returns seem to be driven by a small set of companies according to a study done by Hendrik Bessembinder at Arizona State University. Only one out of 25 companies made it big and drove the market rate of returns higher. Buying them all is one way to ensure you have these winning companies in your portfolio.

Keep in mind that the stock market is a whole bunch of moving parts, but the fewer moving parts we have, the more likely we are to succeed.

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The Ultimate Buy And Hold Strategy

If you know that you can stay the course, then diversifying your investment portfolio for the long-term may be a good idea. However, it likely sounds like a complicated portfolio to build.

The fewer moving parts we have, the more likely we are to succeed. Let our portfolios have 12,000 moving parts, but don't make me deal with 12,000 companies.

Unfortunately, our staple VTSAX fund is not as diversified as it could be according to Paul. If you want to own everything, then you shouldn't limit your portfolio to the top 500 companies.

Instead of letting the S&P 500 drive your portfolio, build a portfolio with more asset classes.

Build a portfolio that is made up of great asset classes, that I've listed before, and give each one equal right and exposure. So it is not cap-weighted, it is asset class weighted.

So, you would still include the S&P 500, but you would not let it drive your returns.

Over the course of your investment building, you could use your new contributions to re-balance the portfolio when needed and to avoid a potentially taxable event.

In an interview on the White Coat Investor, Paul compared this investment strategy to dieting. It can be difficult to stay on track because you have to make the right choice every time you walk into the kitchen...similarly to each time you log into your brokerage account. There was concern that with this extra layer of complexity, you may be less likely to stay the course.

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How To Simplify The Ultimate Buy And Hold Strategy

After a meeting with John Bogle, Merriman decided that the approach might be too complicated for many investors. So he decided to come up with a solution. Merriman was especially focused on investors finding a simple way to maximize the value of the small-cap value. He also explains that Wall Street is about making money, for them... with your money. So be aware of "I'll make you rich!" sales pitches.

One path is to invest in a target date fund that takes care of this rebalancing for you. However, Merriman disagrees with having any bonds in your portfolio at age 20 which is something to consider as research target date funds.

There is a DIY way to include small-cap stocks into your portfolio. Take your age and multiply it by 1.5. Use that number to determine the percentage you should place into a target date fund. The balance of your portfolio will go into a small-cap value fund, or large-cap value fund if you are more conservative. As you age, you will adjust your portfolio to match your retirement plans. As you get closer to retiring, you can move money into "safer" funds.

For example, at age 20, you would have 30% in a target date fund and 70% in small-cap value funds. At age 60, you would end up with 90% in a target date fund and 10% in small-cap value funds. In this way, you've created your own target date fund with more exposure to the productive returns. With this strategy, you still have to accept the risk of the market.

How To Pick The A Target Date Fund

First consider your glide path, which is how much risk you are willing to take now as to when you are older. It also takes into consideration what risk you want to have upon retirement. Every target date fund has a glide path that allows you to see how it will impact at different ages and stages of life. Look for target date funds that are built with index funds because they will give you greater diversification for lower cost.

Remember, the lower the expenses, the better the likely return over the long run.

According to Paul. MorningStar is a good place to start your search. At the bottom of the portfolio page is the glide path. Keep in mind, if you are in your 20's, that bonds might not be in your best interest for rate of return to risk. Vanguard and Black Rock offer different funds for various stages towards retirement.

How To Pick The Right Small-Cap Value Fund

If you want to learn more about finding the right small-cap fund for you, then check out "Best in Class ETFs" by Chris Pedersen.

Look for index funds, low expenses, and great diversification. There are commission-free ETFs at Vanguard.

Many 401K plans have a small-cap blend which includes growth and value funds. IRAs give you more control of the funds included.

Historically, this asset class will produce better returns. However, the market is always changing and the key is to not panic. There will be times when small-cap under-performs large-cap, but if you stay the course it is possible to maximize the potential of your buy and hold strategy.

Listen to Brad and Jonathan's thoughts about this episode here.

How To Connect

The best way to connect with Paul's content is through his website at PaulMerriman.com

You can also email Paul at [email protected]. He tries to answer every question, but he knows that he will not get to them all.

If you are interested in learning more about Paul's approach, then check out his free e-book 101 Investment Decisions Guaranteed to Change Your Financial Future.

The Hot Seat

Favorite Blog: George Sisti's On Course FP

Favorite Article: The Ultimate Buy and Hold StrategyThe Two Funds for Life

Favorite Life Hack: Make a "to-do" list every day with the important items to get done today and 5 items that aren't important to do today but they are easy. Paul makes a new one every day that drives him.

Note! One good option for digital to-do lists is the ToDoist App.

Biggest Financial Mistake: I have always been afraid of a catastrophic event right around the corner. Paul has always gravitated towards the bad news list which led him to be more conservative as an investor than he should have been.

The advice you would give your younger self: Ignore the noise. Read Your Money and Your Brain by Jason Zweig.

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Paul Merriman Introduces The Ultimate Buy And Hold Portfolio