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Early retirement and FAFSA Potential Strategy - thoughts?

Early retirement and FAFSA Potential Strategy - thoughts?

Jc
JC · · 18 replies

Hi all- I’m exploring a new potential FI strategy and would love thoughts and holes poked. This strategy puts together 72(t) and Rule of 55 from Sean Mullaney and Episode 203 of All the Hacks podcast “Saving on the Cost of College with Brad Baldridge”. In that All the Hacks episode, Brad talks about the "Expected Family Contribution”, now calculated via a formula called the "Student Aid Index" (SAI) from the FAFSA. It sounds like the difference between the tuition sticker price and the expected family contribution from the SAI can be filled by financial assistance/financial aid by the school. The SAI is calculated from “prior prior year” AGI (e.g. 2023 AGI for 2025 school year) plus a multiplication factor applied to certain assets. Notably, retirement accounts are fully exempt from the calculation.

A common FI early retirement strategy is to build up the "three legs of the stool” for tax diversification purposes by building up a taxable brokerage account for tax diversification purposes. However, if you’re planning to retire early around the same time as your kids are going to college, it could make sense to (1) build up your retirement accounts, especially your 401k, nearly exclusively (except for emergency fund) during your working years, (2) set up a “bucket/bridge strategy” within the 401k itself instead of in a taxable brokerage account or high yield savings account for the first few years post-retirement to alleviate sequence of return risks, (3) retire in the "prior prior year" before the first kid starts college, and (4) have your exclusive income be from the safe buckets within your 401k via 72(t) or Rule of 55 distributions (assuming retirement before 59 1/2). This assumes that your post-retirement income needs would be less than your working salary, which is reasonable for a number of reasons (e.g. no need to save in 401k, less work-related expenses, etc.). In this scenario, the SAI would only look at the income distribution from the 401k and not the balance of the 401k when considering expected family contributions and then would also look at your 529 balance but would apply a pretty modest factor to it (5.64% of the account balance). The theory here is that there are two options for these years: (1) keep working and use the higher wages earned to pay higher out-of-pocket tuition costs to the school (or, even worse, shoulder your kid with higher loan balances), or (2) stop working and let your lower cost of living needs drive a lower out-of-pocket tuition cost. If the delta between those two options is even remotely close, then it seems like you’re essentially working for no marginal increase in net worth - you’re just paying out the extra money you’re receiving to the school. In that lens, it seems similar to the “work and pay daycare” or “quit working and stay home” analysis for little kids - the scenario where one could basically just work in order to pay daycare if their after tax salary is close to the daycare cost.

The strategy is to focus exclusively on building up that 401k during the working years at the exclusion of rental properties, taxable brokerage accounts, etc. Then it’s to be prepared for 72(t) or Rule of 55 and retire in time for the “prior prior year” AGI calculation to take into account the post-retirement income and not the working year salary.

Perhaps the savings just isn’t worth it in the end, I haven’t done the math. Any thoughts?

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MM

MM

1 year ago

I'm trying do something similar with roth ladder in my 40's - apparently you can petition the university to recalculate your aid due to high untaxed income from Roth withdrawals. I am reluctant to do 72t before 50 due to the longer duration of fixed payments so my plan is to test out when I have one kid in college and switch to 72t later when 2 are going.

pnasri

pnasri

1 year ago

great topic and popular yet not frequently discussed.

NSL

NSL

1 year ago

Interesting. I actually was just thinking about this again after listening to BiggerPockets Money Middle Class Trap episode. We found FI about two years ago, we’ve always been good savers but didn’t have a strategy per se, most of our savings is in 401ks. Last year we stopped maxing out our 401ks to work on a taxable account and then I too thought about the FAFSA (oldest is 13). I’m not sure there is a ‘right’ answer (because too much surrounding college and FAFSA is unknown until it’s happening) but revisiting this article allowed me to drop some of the guilt that we don’t have a big taxable account to help us through early retirement and, per this math, maybe it’ll actually work out come FAFSA time: https://www.madfientist.com/how-to-access-retirement-funds-early/

JC

JC

1 year ago

All really great feedback, thanks. It is definitely situational-specific (e.g. multiple kids, college and retirement timing coincide, etc.). I’d also want to better understand how much of the financial aid package comes in the form of grants/scholarships. So, maybe the strategy is more about knowing the rules and acting if things line up - in other words in timing retirement with the prior prior year period, and letting things shake out from there, as opposed to making a concerted effort to eliminate the third leg of the stool. Will keep thinking about it. Thanks!

JayRam

JayRam

1 year ago

It's a worthwhile exercise depending on how many children you have, your financial situation, education plans, etc. Bear in mind that parent's non-qualified accounts are also counted at 5.64% toward the SAI, which is the same as a parent-owned 529. Being too aggressive about reducing your three-legged stool down to two legs may not improve your financial aid eligibility enough to be worth the risk of not having that third leg in your FI plan. Also, private schools may assess the value of assets like your residence. And obviously the SAI formula is subject to change.

Where you can really move the needle is focusing your school search based on your child's qualities along with your financial situation. CollegeAidPro does a great job with this strategy.

Mk99

Mk99

1 year ago

What would happen to FAFSA and aid students are getting right now if they get rid of the Department of Education?

kindaFI

kindaFI

1 year ago

This is an interesting strategy and it seems like it would certainly help lower the expected family contribution. That being said, it also anchors a lot of your life around gaming the FAFSA, which may not work out when you ultimately get there (you may only be offered loans, funding for grant programs might be reduced, etc). I just worry about the opportunity costs (taxable money is flexible, rental properties can be great diversifiers) coupled with the risk that the whole FAFSA game could change in the intervening years.

Bethany

Bethany

1 year ago

What I would like to understand better in this strategy is how likely the difference in FAFSA is to give grants vs loans. The tuition doesn’t change based on FAFSA does it? Just how much assistance the student receives? I’m not interested in getting more loan qualifications.

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