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Using "Risk Parity" in the transition years prior to retirement?

Using "Risk Parity" in the transition years prior to retirement?

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Zekesmoney · · 9 replies

Looking for advice. My spouse and are 53 and FI or close to it. I plan to work (full time/ part time) until around the age of 60 both for security of getting my kids through college and to maintain health insurance. I have lately been listening to “Risk Parity Radio” with Frank Vasquez and have taken a special interest in “safe withdrawal rates” and just starting to transition my long standing portfolio ( 90% growth stock, 5% bond, 5% cash) towards a “Risk Parity- Golden Ratio”. But before I go too far I wanted to get some opinions. Is it reasonable to start a gradual transition during this intermediate phase, when I will not be needing the 5% SWR, but want to protect my portfolio from a big market draw down in the next 7 years? Is there a point in gradually doing this over 7 years, to be more aggressive the initial few years and gradually taper down?

Also 25% of my portfolio is in brokerage with Vanguard mutual funds and the other 75% are 401K, IRAs and Roths. Should I adapt this gradual transition across all accounts? If I did this in my brokerage it would result in a huge capital gains if I shift funds into Risk parity funds. I am thinking I would do this mainly in my retirement accounts with the added benefit being the income interest given off would be in my non taxable accounts. Perhaps leave my brokerage alone and treat that as a % my large cap growth and use the retirement accounts to swap into Long Treasury, Gold, Managed futures and Small Cap. Am I on the right track? Is there an episode on Choose FI or Risk Parity Radio that discusses this transition period?

Thanks for any opinions/advice

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BostonFI

BostonFI

5 months ago

Tools like those at Portfolio Charts dot com and Testfol dot io can show you the maximum drawdowns of your portfolio now versus your target portfolio so you can assess the risks of transitioning slowly versus quickly. You need to be comfortable with your system, so while gradual is fine if that’s what you’re comfortable with, TBH 10% bonds/cash won’t be an effective counterweight against a big dip in 90% equities. For that reason and because you said you’re at or near FI, you may want to make your gradual transition over the next 1-2 years instead of over the next 7.

Do pay attention to the tax treatment of accounts as you transition. It sounds like you have the right idea to leave your taxable account in whatever asset allocation it is now and focus on making changes in retirement accounts. As others have said, consider all accounts as one portfolio.

If you haven’t already found it, the Risk Parity Radio RSS feed is really handy to search for keywords to find episodes you’re interest in. It’s too big a file to open on a smartphone, so open the link on a desktop.

https://rss.buzzsprout.com/1228499.rss
Matt M

Matt M

5 months ago

Since you are initially heavy in equities you could consider the duration of historical equity bear markets to guide your decision. For example, the 2000s in the United States market were painful and long. If you take too long to transition you could very well end up with a sequence of returns issue.

I'm too struggling with how and when to transition. Thanks for asking such an important set of questions!

Zekesmoney

Zekesmoney

5 months ago

I agree. I have recently found many other episodes on the Risk Parity Radio podcast discussing this issue and feel more comfortable on how to do it. It is just hard to pull the trigger, so doing gradually may be easier psychologically but the other half of my brain wants to do it all at once and make a huge shift in my IRA/401K.

Matt M

Matt M

5 months ago

I'm also sketched out with the current gold market price. I know we are not supposed to time the market, but I might slowly titrate into a larger gold position.

JoeQ17

JoeQ17

5 months ago

Frank has talked about this before, a few notes.

Look at your portfolio all as one.

Frank typically suggests transitioning no more than 5 years out, yet he also notes that you can utilize risk parity as an accumulation portfolio. Won’t be as much growth but more stable. So if that’s what you’re going for yes, then go for it.

You could fully transition now but agree with a partial with transitioning over time. Start with new money, going into gold / futures / treasuries. If you can would definitely swap growth equity to split value and growth fully now.

if you figure a 5 yr transition, you can take your proposed final percentages and divide by 5 and each year that’s your transition goal (so 3% in gold in each if aiming for golden ratio)…

I just went through the transition from full equity to golden ratio over the last two years. Reach out with more questions.

Kaptain

Kaptain

5 months ago

Looking at the whole "portfolio as one" means that you should also pay attention to asset location in addition to asset allocation. Search episodes and this forum for details on that.

7 years should be plenty of time to transition through accumulation and some selling to rebalance.

While there may be some risk of underperformance, my RP portfolio (Modified Golden Butterfly) actually outperformed the market last year with about 1/3 the drawdown and volatility and I am up about 5.5% YTD while the market is close to flat.

Zekesmoney

Zekesmoney

5 months ago

Ok I have been looking over my portfolios and will keep this all in mind as I start the transition

Zekesmoney

Zekesmoney

5 months ago

That all makes sense. Thanks Joe!

22BWO

22BWO

5 months ago

Hi, I'm transitioning from work to retirement. Over the past few years I have been selling off my individual stocks and buying a risk parity portfolio. I haven't sold off much of my stocks in my taxable brokerage account in order to keep my taxable earnings low for ACA subsidies. My risk parity portfolio has continued to grow over the past 4 years. I'm sure I would have a greater amount in my portfolio if I had stayed with my stock heavy allocation but I'm happy where I am as I do not fear a massive pull back like I experienced in 2022.

Hope this helps

--don

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