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Feeling lost, it's been a tough year

Feeling lost, it's been a tough year

dizzy
dizzy 141 XP · · 13 replies

My day job is acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine (herbal medicine, cupping, guasha, etc). I moved into this field after a decade as a full time professional musician, trying to make a better choice. Figured a medical field was a good bet, I was misled however on cost of attendance (rates went up 25% start to finish, and what they told me to expect for living expenses turned out wildly off, I ended up living in my van for 2.5 yrs of the program), expected income, and job prospects though. 10 yrs into the field though I was doing pretty decently at $70k/yr (seeing on average 40 patients a week, +/- somewhat widely).

After years of being misclassified (should have been W2 likely but almost all jobs in my field are 1099 and part time), working multiple roles (healthcare practitioner, admin and cleaner, tho my actual role was 100% supposed to be only healthcare practitioner) I left my job after a couple rough incidents, one of which resulted in a hypertensive crisis for me, and 5 yrs of no raise (total time there 7.5 years).

A couple incidents happened with staff- this, along with ongoing safety concerns at the clinic, and my boss's response (rather, lack of response) made me leave. I had no hope left it would get better.

There are almost no jobs in my field. In the last 8 months there has been nothing within an hour or so. I've applied for Borrower's Defense for loan discharge and while I feel I have a strong case, the current admin is nothing doing on all these cases. I'm only mildly optimistic.

Almost all of the google reviews for the clinic were about me specifically, and I saw more patients per week than any other provider over the 5 clinics at the group practice. So I've opened up my own practice, less than a mile away. While I think there is potential for it to do really well, and at a minimum feel less stress (despite doing all the roles myself) it is going slower than I hoped. I should be net positive in my first month of practice, but only barely.

I have side income as a still gigging musician ($10-12k/yr) and do churning for income, but I'm in a rough spot due to a lot of travel for my dad (big decline, lots of suffering, and impending death, though somehow he is still alive, unfortunately still suffering terribly and in memory care to the tune of $12k/mo. We are really worried for my mom who is also 72 but in terrific health) and also my divorce last year (which thank god I avoided having to pay alimony for, it was a real possibility. My ex had refused to work for the bulk of the relationship)

I'm not sure where to go from here. I have an affordable apartment for my neighborhood (though high for me now) and have been gardening to help reduce food expenses, but I'm really worried. Especially after the divorce expenses getting out of the rat race feels so distant for me now. I'm 44 and while I've stashed a bit in recent years the future is feeling bleak at this moment.

Any advice for me to get back on my feet financially? Any words of wisdom about opening up your practice and what worked well?

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Clairedetoile

Clairedetoile

13 XP

5 months ago

Hey DIzzy! Fellow acupuncturist here, and I am sorry to hear of the struggle. But, I will tell you that if you had great results and patient retention at the last clinic while working for someone else, you will likely do so much better on your own! Stay confident and set goals and make sure you set the right rates! You are worth so much to patients especially when you are supporting them on their journey and helping them achieve their health goals!

I am more than happy to connect to chat more if you need! I work 3.5 days a week (19 pts on average), and am about to take 2 months off this summer cause I've hit a little burnout. I am solidly stashing money into solo 401K, Roth IRA, and additional in brokerage accounts. I may not retire before 62, but I am on my way to a solid retirement and feel secure financially. YOU CAN DO THIS TOO!

Believe in yourself, believe in the medicine and what you offer, set goals and healthy boundaries and you'll be back on your feet in no time!

mamamay

mamamay

19 XP

5 months ago

First off, I feel for you. You have had a few career and personal setbacks, and there is some rumination there. The good news is you have some money saved, your freeloading ex is in the rearview mirror, and you started your practice. Here are a few ideas for getting back on your feet financially:

For your practice, you might reverse-engineer how many patients you need to see per day/week/month to break even, and then to be profitable. While this may sound harsh, you may also consider setting a timeline for how long you will stay in private practice if you don’t meet those financial goals. I’m not suggesting you won’t, but what is your plan B/mitigation strategy?

I previously worked remotely for a company in Malvern, PA that supported the pharmaceutical industry. The Philly area has many opportunities in pharma and clinical research. One career path is to explore clinical research support roles at U Penn or other local employers. You could also consider doing this part-time while you build your practice. Entry-level roles don’t pay well, but after a few years in a full-time role, there is no reason you couldn’t make well over $100k, with benefits, if you move from research coordinator to manager and/or go work for pharma/device. If this is something you want to explore, you might look up the Association of Clinical Research Professionals (ACRP) and see if their Philly chapter has events where you could network. Other “adjacent” roles to your skill set include working at a dialysis clinic, etc., again, not sexy, but these can pay well and offer stability. Some may have weekend options while you grow your practice.

I’ve consulted at many practices in the clinical research space. I recently helped a family member with his private practice as a naturopathic doctor who doesn’t accept insurance. I told him to corral his pts into three days a week while he grows the practice, and to set aside one day for admin. You control your schedule, and you got this. Good luck!

dizzy

dizzy

139 XP

5 months ago

Yes I did a business plan and worked with a SCORE mentor before opening the biz (tho, unfortunately he disappeared after the 2nd session and never responded again). I looked at # of patients (with an average based on historical numbers and types of treatments at the old place) and the numbers were HIGHLY encouraging- my old average of 45/week would give me a GIANT raise, and even seeing 15/week would give me a comfortable salary on top of my current music income. Unfortunately I have been seeing way less than 15 a week since open- admittedly only 2 weeks so far.

My current lease is 1 year so I guess that's what I'm going for here? I have no plan B. Acupuncture was already my plan B for my music career. I have worked every possible job in it and am against the wall, opening a private practice is my plan B for that, I've resisted it for over a decade.

TBH working in Pharma is pretty much against my whole treatment philosophy (I acknowledge the role appropriately prescribed meds have of course). I've had a couple friends who worked at Penn/Monell etc in assistant roles. I'm doubtful I would qualify (many years ago I applied for these sorts of jobs in my 20s, and that was with a more recent science degree in geology, my undergrad- I was never hired let alone contacted. I also have a close friend who runs at lab at Jeff and he said years ago while he would love to help the space is actually rather competitive even for "entry level" roles, and that without a bio or science research degree it was unlikely) and they always said how awful the work was and underpaid, but it is something to consider. I guess I just am dubious about that opportunity. Weekend options also are a no as that's main gig time for me, as well as the most popular day for the clinic. I will keep it in mind however.

jkinthedmv

jkinthedmv

378 XP

5 months ago

Jumping in here to express encouragement to you. I have benefited greatly from Acupuncture over the years. Your skill set is needed! As someone who was self-employed for a long time, I also applaud your decision to start your own practice. Networking in conventional and less conventional ways may help to grow your business. It will likely take some trial and error to figure out where the flow is. You may discover that your work appeals to a subset of the larger client base, e.g. athletes or seniors or whatever, which can help you target your networking and marketing efforts. I know nothing about becoming an influencer, but creating a high quality social media feed that attracts the kinds of clients you wish to serve might be a low-cost strategy for you – or connecting with influencers who can share your perspectives with their audiences (e.g. via a podcast episode or short clip on social media). Just some thoughts here - you will figure out what's best for you, and I think you will gain confidence as you discover your unique contributions to the field. Crafting a personal mission statement might even be a way to center your marketing efforts? I did that many years into my self-employment journey, and I found it helpful. Such exercises can be clarifying. Wishing you much success. Editing to add, there may be a way to present yourself to the public that shares both your healing arts/Acupuncture self and your musician self - something to consider?

jlsummer

jlsummer

49 XP

5 months ago

As a retired massage therapist I just want to give you some encouragement that things can and will turn around. You already have a base of clients that sound like they will be slowly migrating towards your business, also consider networking opportunities with businesses that are around where you work or offering a free/discounted service for those that refer new clients. I would find businesses within a 5 mile radius that have clients that might be looking for your services and see if you can leave some brochures or business cards that people can pick up. Maybe businesses like a gym or supplement shops, etc. would be good places to leave your information. Always keep your business cards with you to hand out to everyone who will take one and don’t be afraid to promote yourself at your other gigs that you take on. When we need money, we think we need another job but the most important job you have is to promote your Chinese Medicine practice. I used to use a company called MassageBook that has a lot of business management tools that help promote your business online. Since the website used such a long website name for each business, I purchased my own website domain and just linked it (redirected) for free to my MassageBook page so that people could find me easily by searching my business name online. (linking a website to another website is free and easy). You mentioned people were giving you Google reviews so I don’t know if you already have a website, but MassageBook can help widen your circle online and help people find you more easily. Check them out, they work with more professions than just massage therapy. I think the tier that I used was one step above their free tier, so don’t get sucked into thinking you need the whole shebang. You’re on the right track, just keep putting one foot in front of the other, we need talented TCM practitioners.

dizzy

dizzy

139 XP

5 months ago

Yes, I really want to network with local businesses. A huge one (Comcast) is nearby but I'm still not in network, I want to wait until I'm in network since I've had patients from there and their plan has excellent benefits for acu. Just this week I had 2 cold calls from people who work there but they cancelled when I let them know that we are not in network yet (I offered to run it out of network, or switch them to a more affordable semi-private session, they said no).

There's also some other biz's in the area for sure and I've slowly been leaving cards out but it seems like being in network is one part of the issue. The other is a niche (microneedling) which I can't afford equipment for yet but have done training for. If I can get some funding I think it will pay off quickly, there's a facial place that has agreed to network with me once I get that, and past clients have asked for it as well.

Yes I already have a website, socials, and a practice management software that handles all my EHR stuff, bookings, etc. As well as an excellent biller/credentialler who is just as frustrated as I am about the applications.

I will check out the MassageBook thanks for recommending that!

J.P. MoreGains

J.P. MoreGains

742 XP

5 months ago

Sounds like you are in a tough situation and I'm sorry to hear that.

I'm 46 and I live in my vehicle (a smaller SUV) and I've really turned my finances around over the past 3 years. You already lived in a vehicle so you know what it's about. There are many things that are negative and it can be very tough. But since you've done it before maybe consider it again.

With a paid off car I can live off of $1,000 a month fairly easily if I don't travel. You may be able to do the same. I'm also single and that makes it easy.

Point is that if you make a big sacrifice and go back to vehicle living for a couple years and work some extra hours even if that means getting a different job the savings could really add up.

Vehicle living will move the needle way more than anything else (coupons, growing your own food, having roommates, etc).

I recommend it for people who can maintain their mental and physical health while doing it.

dizzy

dizzy

139 XP

5 months ago

I really don’t think i could do van life again right now. I work in the center of a major city and really need a stable place. It’s too hot in summers (97 here today!) and I’d feel unsafe to do that long term in Philly (also gas it too expensive rn). I spent a total of 7 years houseless in my 30s and just got out of my relationship where he would not let me make any changes to the house, i had to keep most of my stuff in a corner of the basement even. It was really important to me i have a place i feel home at, i love my apartment and can see myself here indefinitely. I also have a huge (we are talking 20 fruit trees and full complement of veggies and berries) I’ve grown since moving in.

Van life is not for me right now, probably someday again but not until I’m retired probably.

J.P. MoreGains

J.P. MoreGains

742 XP

5 months ago

Those are great reasons to settle into a real comfortable place! I don’t want to do this forever and I look forward to a place also. 7 years is a long time that is hardcore.

dizzy

dizzy

139 XP

5 months ago

Thank goodness for plant swaps and the city recycling center! I've saved so much on gardening because of them. They offer free compost, manure, and mulch which is incredible. Also my city has a really good gardening swap scene. There's always ways to make a little actually, for instance I've paid for my seeds by planting duplicates and selling the extras. or for some of my fruit trees/plants by rooting new plants. Just yesterday I drove somewhat far to an ag store in farm country to pick up this organic spray that comes in a massive bag (it's soooo expensive online) but then am selling small bags and more than recouped my costs for the whole bag + gas. I'm finding gardening actually less expensive that you might think.

Gardening is something I've wanted to do since I was a little girl, just obsessed for some reason) and I guess it's my midlife crisis therapy.

Charlotte

Charlotte

1,120 XP

5 months ago

Hi there. Thanks for sharing your story- I'm sorry that you're going through so many big life things right now. I'd imagine it feels overwhelming.

It sounds like your new practice has a lot of promise- if you haven't run a business before I'd recommend checking out Rebel Business School run by the Donegans. They teach you how to get things up and running with very little cash out of pocket. (Plus, they are really positive and fun). Right now, I wouldn't worry so much about FI- I'd put all of my energy (not money) into growing the business, and maybe picking up something nights/weekends to create some more margin.

You have so much going on- it might feel nice to get your feet on the ground financially, and then move forward from there. Best of luck!

FabFI

FabFI

193 XP

5 months ago

1000% agree with this suggestion. You are remarkably resilient - keep up the good work (growing own food, aspiration to build a practice). Wishing you all the best.

dizzy

dizzy

139 XP

5 months ago

Great thank you. The program looks interesting, and, FREE!

Yes I'm not looking at FI in this moment just trying to make ends meet. I'm hoping someone here will have some advice though.

I am already up and running actually, but some things I'm just stuck with (insurance credentialing is taking forever, much longer than I was quoted- nothing I can do and all those patients are either waiting or paying a lower cash rate for now…others are finishing out a prepaid package at the old clinic). I have no money for advertising and trying the old fashioned cold calling/networking but tbh that has never worked for me in the past and hasn't resulted in anything now. Do have some regulars putting up google reviews and they are so kind, really grateful for that and I know that's really a big thing for a new biz.

I'm already working nights/weekends for the biz (those are the main hours) as well as for my music career. Not sure what I can pick up daytime tbh. I've applied for a couple waitress/cafe type jobs as well as admin-y stuff, but I haven't worked in those fields for >20 yrs, all of them want recent experience.

Yes the divorce made clear to me that such a big problem in the relationship was that I felt under so much financial pressure and that what I really needed was a sense of stability. My ex was very much wanting to FIRE (though he wasn't familiar with the term of it) which was how I got involved in the community. It was awful that the job imploded right after the divorce went through, but c'est la vie?

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