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I detached Escrow from my mortgage and saved $2500 per year

I detached Escrow from my mortgage and saved $2500 per year

Ty Richards
Ty Richards 191 XP · · 16 replies

Hey, this may be common knowledge for you guys, but for those of you who don't know, in many cases you may be eligible to detach your property taxes and insurance ESCROW account from your mortgage and save some or in my case a LOT of money.

I wish I knew about this a decade ago, but better late than never I guess.

The main benefits for me are:

  1. INSURANCE DISCOUNTS - AllState my home owners insurance company knocked 10% off the total yearly premium for paying yearly and another 5% for doing it with an auto bank draft. Along with this I removed a bunch of unnecessary stuff from my policy that I had no idea I was paying for. 2025 premium was $4500, and after all of this was said and done I'm down to $2000 for 2026. It's like finding $2500 and pulling it out of thin air and I can invest the difference now.
  2. EARN INTEREST - Now my yearly property taxes and home owners insurance payments sit in MY own Vanguard "Cash Plus" high yield savings account and builds up interest along the way all year long: 3-4% instead of sitting in the mortgage escrow account building interest for the bank.
  3. TINY MORTGAGE - I have to stay on top of saving for the yearly taxes & insurance, but I LOVE that my mortgage just went from $1800/mo to $800/mo - It feels much less overwhelming and daunting.
  4. AWARENESS - Tracking Taxes and Insurance along with principle and interest as separate categories in the budget (I use YNAB app) let's me know exactly when I'm overpaying for insurance or taxes so I know when I need to protest taxes or haggle/switch insurance companies. Where before it would take me months to decode it all and figure out what part of the mortgage payment was going to what.

It took about a day of phone calls with insurance company and with the mortgage company but well worth the effort. I'm very grateful for the neighbor lady that showed me how to this. So I highly recommend it.

First get quotes from other home insurance companies to see if you can do better and go with best price. Then tell them you want to pay yearly directly (not through mortgage company), look at your policy and cut the fat while you are at it. Then last call your mortgage company and tell them you would like to "detach escrow" from the mortgage, they will refund whatever is in that account and you put it in a Vanguard Cash Plus high yield savings account. Boom done.

I am married with 8 children so we don't have a ton of wiggle room on food buget and other things. Fixing home insurance, switching car insurance, no restaurants, and no subscriptions are the "secret money" that I have found where I've been unknowingly wasting 1-2 thousand dollars a month on. It's now a game to me. Find the money!

So now I have $2500/year less expenses, or $208/mo saved. That's about $60,000 I can chop off my FI number, plus reinvest the excess $2500 I was spending into VTSAX. And the bonus is that I'll make 2 or 3 hundo of interest on the ~$7000/yr of taxes & insurance that I'm holding onto in MY own accounts and reinvest that into VTSAX too!

Has anyone else done this? Any other "hidden money" you have found in other areas?

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Replies (16)

MeloJ

MeloJ

100 XP

3 months ago

Thank you for thi information. I'm going to try this tomorrow.

Matt_

Matt_

307 XP

9 months ago

Thanks for this post - I had no idea this was possible.

I was able to get an escrow waiver from Chase by simply sending a couple secure messages through their website. I didn't even have to pick up the phone.

Along with other benefits, I'll be able to pay my property taxes via credit card for a small fee. I'll be able to get another signup bonus or two every year this way.

Ty Richards

Ty Richards

171 XP

9 months ago

Yeah I'm discovering that this is a standard "old people" move that most gen-x, millenial, and gen Z people just don't know about. My father-in-law has done it for decades. And when I showed up last week to pay my property tax bill at the local county tax office, it was me in a massive line of 20+ people over 60-70 years old ready to pay their yearly tax bill in cash. Like a bunch of badasses. It's the move of an upstanding citizen that is responsible, debt-free, and frugal as hell. haha

blythed

blythed

9 months ago

Thanks for the idea!

Ty Richards

Ty Richards

171 XP

9 months ago

Just trying to pay it forward! Check it out for your own situation

Marty

Marty

376 XP

9 months ago

Thanks for the reminder. I decided to see if I could get it done!

Arcenis Rojas

Arcenis Rojas

336 XP

9 months ago

I actually had no idea you could do that! How did you detach escrow? Is there a specific request one has to make or some kind of requirement?

Thanks!

matthewmiller

matthewmiller

11 XP

9 months ago

Call your mortgage provider (usually a bank) to ask. Most will allow you to detach if you have 20-25% equity. If using a major bank, you can also send them a message from your online account to request that. Might take a few weeks. Good luck!

Nik Johnson

Nik Johnson

33 XP

9 months ago

Hello Ty, I have been paying my property taxes and insurance out of pocket for some time now. I completely agree with you points but there are a couple more benefits and a watch out that come to mind.

Lowered Debt to Income ratio: when you do need to apply for credit they look at your existing debts as a whole when you have a mortgage payment that doesn't include taxes and insurance that number is reduced increasing adds of approval.

Extra spend for Credit Card Hacks: This is my favorite it's money I was going to spend anyway so when I pay my Insurance in full I strategically open a new credit card to meet the minimum spend for the sign up bonus. I don't do this for my property taxes because it's a convenience fee but know some who do.

Not escrowing shouldn't be done by anyone who struggles to save money as not paying your taxes could ultimately result in finding your home at a tax auction for failure to pay but this is a great hack if you are able to be disciplined in making payments on your own.

Ty Richards

Ty Richards

171 XP

9 months ago

These are great points. Thanks for the 411. Know thyself - always a key element.

brub888

brub888

828 XP

9 months ago

tl;dr Shop your major expenses and don't waste money on stuff you don't use or want.

This seems obvious common sense to someone paying close attention to their income and expenses.

The title is clickbait. Ty saved 15% ($300-$675) from discounts and the rest ($2000) by removing a bunch of unnecessary stuff from the policy that he had no idea he was paying for

Carla15

Carla15

18 XP

9 months ago

Hi! we just refinanced and I started exploring detaching escrow but held off. Reading your post and rational is motivating me to look again at the potential savings. Thanks for sharing!

Ty Richards

Ty Richards

171 XP

9 months ago

It was well worth it! The math is big but even the transparency/awareness part of it was worth it.

Now I know exactly when I'm overpaying because I see exactly what is going toward P.I.T.I (princ, interest, taxes, and insurance) at any given moment. Having separate categories for each of those in the budget is huge.

Westie

Westie

1,462 XP

9 months ago

This reminded me to cancel my car insurance, since my car got totaled recently. Don't really need insurance for it now. I set a calendar reminder for 2 weeks from now in case my insurance needs anything else to wrap up my claim with the other driver's insurance.

IntHART

IntHART

9 months ago

This is awesome! We have AllState for our homeowners, and have been putting off shopping around for car insurance - currently Progressive - high car insurance state (Louisiana) has us at $618/month for three cars - 2 of which are over 10 years old. Have been meaning to shop around and look at new rates, but it's been on the perpetual To-Do list. This has motivated to take action on both! Thank you!

Ty Richards

Ty Richards

171 XP

9 months ago

It's worth it! Yeah a few months ago we switched car insurance companies and went from $350/mo for 2 old cars to $70. Hidden money just waiting to be invested.

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