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Value Matrix: Case Studies (2-4) Required Bloat
Spending Smarter
Ep. 595 · · 56m 7s

Value Matrix: Case Studies (2-4) Required Bloat

Not all high expenses are created equal. Brad and Jonathan break down required versus discretionary spending through three detailed case studies, demonstrating how the Value Matrix tool transforms exp...

Hosted by Brad Barrett & Jonathan Mendonsa
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Most people trying to slash their budget hunt for obvious waste—daily lattes, unused subscriptions, impulse purchases. But what happens when you've already cut the fat and your highest expenses are the ones you can't seem to touch: the mortgage, the car payment, the daycare bill? That's required bloat, and it's quietly inflating your FI number by hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Key Topics Discussed

Introduction to Value Matrix Case Studies (00:00:00) Jonathan recaps the series and introduces three value matrix case studies, following up from episode 592.

Case 1: Required Bloat (00:03:00) Exploring a couple with high required expenses including housing, transportation, and childcare. Discussion of seasons of life and time-bound expenses.

Insurance Optimization Strategies (00:13:00) Brad and Jonathan discuss how the couple saved nearly $10,000 annually by shopping insurance policies and adjusting coverage levels.

Required Expenses: Fixed, Review, and Variable (00:18:00) Breaking down required expenses into three categories and identifying opportunities for optimization even in supposedly fixed costs.

Case 2: The Optimized Budget (00:25:00) Examining a couple spending $50,000 annually with highly optimized expenses across all categories, demonstrating what a locked-in FI budget looks like.

Self-Insurance Milestone (00:35:00) Discussion of umbrella insurance and the milestone of becoming self-insured enough to cancel term life insurance policies.

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Case 3: High-Joy Giving (00:42:00) Analyzing a couple spending $17,000 annually on charitable giving and gifts, exploring the intersection of generosity and financial independence.

Effective Giving Strategies (00:46:00) Brad covers tax-optimization strategies for charitable giving including donor-advised funds, lumping donations, and donating appreciated stock.

Takeaways and Tool Access (00:54:00) Jonathan wraps up with listener feedback and directs people to access the Value Matrix tool at choosefi.com/local.

Notable Quotes

"Just because it's required doesn't mean that we ignore it. We're going to put all of this into our process, into our value matrix." — Jonathan Mendonsa

"There are definitely seasons to this. Take a deep breath and understand you're still doing great and you're still making plans to supercharge your path to FI." — Brad Barrett

"Sometimes when you just get a different quote, you are shocked by how inexpensive it is. It always pays to just get different quotes on insurance." — Brad Barrett

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"When you have opened up your hands earlier to share in any way that you choose to do it, you are going to definitely avoid this feeling of hoarding." — Jonathan Mendonsa

"Wouldn't it be cool if every single item showed up as high joy? That would just really show that you're living an aligned life regardless of cost." — Brad Barrett

Key Takeaways

  • Complete an expense audit categorizing all spending into groups (housing, transportation, food, etc.) before using the Value Matrix tool
  • Shop your insurance policies annually—home, auto, health, life, and umbrella—to ensure you're getting competitive rates
  • Categorize each required expense as Fixed, Review, or Variable to identify optimization opportunities
  • Consider higher-deductible health insurance plans (like ACA bronze) if you're healthy to reduce premiums while maintaining catastrophic coverage
  • If charitable giving is important to you, explore tax optimization strategies like donor-advised funds or donating appreciated stock
  • Access the Value Matrix tool at choosefi.com/local under Tools and Resources to visualize your spending alignment
  • Review time-bound expenses (daycare, car payments, student loans) and calculate how your FI number will decrease when they end
  • Join the ChooseFI community giving forum to discuss effective giving strategies with like-minded individuals
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Comments (7)

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KaySueBee 2 months ago

It's my understanding that an umbrella only protects your assets up to the limit. If you have a $1 million umbrella policy and someone wins a judgment against you for $2 million, then you will have to pay them the difference. It didn't seem very clear in the episode. Also, no need to even think about cancelling your term life insurance if you are near the end of the term. We have paid about 20 years on policies that are set to expire in 5 years. It would be silly to cancel now after paying for 20 years!

Shanda Finnigan 6 months ago

What!?! I could just cancel my term life insurance now that I don’t need it??? I’ve been waiting until it ends in two years but you’re saying I could just quit now???? Mind blown.

michaelshealy 6 months ago

Nice timing on the life insurance comments. 15yrs ago we bought a term policy on me for $1mil, and set the goal that we'd be FI when the term ended, so we'd never need to buy another. The policy expired this month, and we don't need to replace it.

Also regarding high-joy giving, we always gave generously to charity on the way to FI, but rarely had bandwidth to donate our time. We always intended to flip that once we reached FI: cut back the monetary giving to quit work as soon as possible, while ramping up our time-donations. But now that we're at FI from a "core expenses" POV, we've realized it's only a bit more time to be able to do both…and not cut back on the donations that our charities really appreciate. And so I'm continuing part-time for just a bit longer in a lower-stress role, and I'll fully stop working once we can continue our giving thru retirement.

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GingerG 6 months ago

Not kidding, my ideal day is walking around town for six hours listening to Brad and Jonathan review budgets. Loved this episode, but 5 hours too short.

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tvingino 6 months ago

To add to my comment about Umbrella policy. I didn't change my homeowner's liability limits, I carry homeowner's insurance more for property damage than liability coverage, liability coverage on a home seems to me to be low risk, but if one is worried about it, they could increased the liability limits of their homeowner's insurance.

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tvingino 6 months ago

Most insurance companies have increased Umbrella coverage premiums. My coverage of $3 million went from $300 to over $700/year. I called to decrease my coverage, but even at $1 million I was quoted over $600/year. I found a work around, cancel the Umbrella policy and instead increase your underlying auto insurance liability limits. I increased my liability limits from $300/500 to $1 million and the premium only increaased $120/year. That's a $580 savings per year!

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roberto - 6 months ago

I listened to this episode this morning while I was out for a walk. The discussion around a car payment made my ears perk up. I appreciate Jonathan's nuance on this. After more than 10 years without a car payment (or really any kind of debt) I bought a new car a couple of years ago and financed it. In my case, the trade in covered about 60% of the value of the new vehicle, so the amount financed was far less than the full purchase price.

The rationale was that I wasn't planning on the purchase way in advance. Because of that I was very light on available cash. So, my options were to sell a big chunk all at once with substantial capital gains (essentially all of taxable brokerage holdings are pre-COVID), or finance at a not terrible interest rate and end up with a $350/month payment. Now, I could certainly pay the loan off at any moment, but I'm in no particular rush as the money benefits more from being invested in the market.

However, all of this made me realize that it might be time to update the FI wisdom around car payments to something like "you are only allowed to finance up an amount that you can truly afford to pay all up front, but choose not to for practical reasons". So, if I'm 40 and everything is in my 401(k), then I don't get to count that, but if I have money in my taxable brokerage and I would really be willing to take out the $25k, $30k, $35k, etc for the purchase, then perhaps I choose to finance instead (e.g., because I got a great interest rate).

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SomeSunnyDay 6 months ago

We've been pondering the same idea. Have older cars that we love right now but know the day will come. It's kind of like my mortgage, it feels great to pay off houses but if the rate is good you have other options.

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wmw42 6 months ago

Agree! I did something similar around 5 years ago when my car was totaled by a tree. Insurance gave me a check for a bit more than half what at a new car would cost - I used that for a down payment and then was able to finance the rest at 0% interest!!! For me a no brainer. The monthly amount was $311 and I just made the last payment this month. To me, this was an oportunity to keep 15K in the markets earning money over 5 years.

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