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Annual CFP Roundtable 2017 | Kyle Mast and Danny Kenny
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Ep. 058 · · 1h 23m 20s

Annual CFP Roundtable 2017 | Kyle Mast and Danny Kenny

CFPs Kyle Mast and Danny Kenny share what DIY investors commonly miss in their 2017 annual roundtable discussion on FI planning strategies.

Hosted by Brad Barrett & Jonathan Mendonsa · Guests: Kyle Mast, Danny Kenny
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CFPs who practice financial independence aren't an oxymoron — they're your secret weapon. Kyle Mast and Danny Kenney are certified financial planners embedded in the FI community, and they're here to answer the questions you voted most urgent: when DIY fails, how to pay for advice without getting fleeced, and why even hardcore index fund enthusiasts miss blind spots a planner can catch in one conversation.

Introduction and Overview

- The episode kicks off with an introduction to the unique intersection of certified financial planning and the FI movement.

Panel Introduction

- Brad and Jonathan introduce Kyle Mast and Danny Kenney, both CFPs who are active members of the FI community.

Personal Stories from CFPs

- Kyle and Danny share their personal journeys into financial independence and how they apply FI principles in their professional practices.

Valuing Certified Financial Planners

- Discussion of the distinct value CFPs provide beyond investment management. The planning process itself — identifying blind spots, optimizing tax strategies, coordinating complex decisions — is where the real value lies, even for confident DIYers.

Key Insight: "Even a DIYer, you might not know what you're missing." A one-time consultation can reveal overlooked opportunities or risks.

Client Engagement and Dynamics

- CFPs often serve as mediators between spouses, helping couples align on financial goals and risk tolerance. This neutral third-party perspective can defuse tension and create shared understanding.

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Questions from the Community

- The hosts begin addressing the top community-submitted questions, ranging from fee structures to finding the right planner.

Fees and Planning Models

- Explanation of different fee structures: hourly rates, flat retainers, asset-based fees, and one-time project fees. Fee models vary widely depending on the planner's business model and the complexity of your situation.

Finding a Competent CFP

- Recommendations for locating CFPs who understand FI principles and aren't incentivized to sell products. Resources like XY Planning Network are mentioned as starting points.

The Importance of Fiduciaries

- Explanation of fiduciary duty: a legal and ethical obligation to act in the client's best interest. Not all financial advisors are fiduciaries, and it's critical to confirm this before engaging.

Shifting Tax Strategies

- Discussion of recent tax law changes and strategies to consider, including the timing of conversions, capital gains harvesting, and bracket management.

Psychological Aspects of Investing

- Exploration of behavioral finance: how emotions, risk tolerance, and spousal communication impact investment decisions. A planner can help filter choices through a rational lens during market volatility.

The Value of Financial Retreats

- The planners advocate for annual "financial retreats" — dedicated time for families to review goals, reassess strategies, and ensure everyone is aligned.

Key Quotes

  • "Even a DIYer, you might not know what you're missing."
  • "The planning is where the true value is provided."
  • "CFPs often mediate discussions between spouses."
  • "Everyone should talk to a CFP at some point."

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