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Ep. 582 Incremental Gains

What if financial independence isn’t about one big breakthrough — but a series of small, intentional wins? In their second episode of 2026, Jonathan and Brad lay out a “table of contents” for the FI j...

Brad Barrett, Jonathan Mendonsa ·
1h 5m 7s
  1. Introduction to Incremental Gains
  2. What is a Red X Month?
  3. Mindset and Incremental Gains
  4. Importance of Time and Journey
  5. Roth IRA for Kids
  6. The Impact of Fees on Investing

In this episode, Jonathan and Brad explore the infinite possibilities within the financial independence community by discussing the concept of Incremental Gains.

Key Topics Discussed

  • Introduction to Incremental Gains (00:00:00)

    • An overview of the episode's aim to introduce innovative ideas within the financial independence community.
  • What is a Red X Month? (00:02:05)

    • A red X month is a designated period for relaxation and reflection, allowing individuals to step back from their regular commitments.
  • Mindset and Incremental Gains (00:05:05)

    • Importance of having the right mindset in achieving financial independence.
  • Importance of Time and Journey (00:07:21)

    • The hosts stress that it’s about appreciating the journey, not just the destination.
  • Roth IRA for Kids (00:29:46)

    • Discussing how children with earned income can benefit from a Roth IRA, helping them build wealth early.
  • The Impact of Fees on Investing (00:44:01)

    • Emphasizing the significance of minimizing fees and its long-term effects on wealth accumulation.

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Actionable Takeaways

  • Red X Month: Consider taking a dedicated month to reset and recharge your priorities. (00:05:05)
  • Roth IRA for Children: Open a Roth IRA for your child if they have earned income to help them start building wealth. (00:29:46)
  • Minimize Investment Fees: Invest in low-fee index funds to optimize your long-term wealth and keep track of any fees tied to mutual funds or advisors. (00:43:27)

Key Quotes

  • "Reclaim your most precious non-renewable resource: your time." (00:16:51)
  • "It's not about reaching a mythical number; it's about living a better life." (00:08:55)
  • "Time in the market surpasses timing the market." (00:48:22)

Timestamps

  • 00:00:00 - Introduction to Incremental Gains
  • 00:02:05 - What is a Red X Month?
  • 00:05:05 - Mindset and Incremental Gains
  • 00:07:21 - Importance of Time and Journey
  • 00:29:46 - Roth IRA for Kids
  • 00:44:01 - The Impact of Fees on Investing

Understanding Incremental Gains

Incremental gains focus on making small, manageable changes that can lead to significant impacts over time. This principle emphasizes progress rather than perfection. Instead of trying to overhaul your financial life overnight, adopt a mindset of gradual improvements.

The Journey Matters

It’s imperative to recognize that financial independence is about the journey, not just the destination. Enjoying the process allows for personal growth, self-discovery, and a deeper understanding of your values and priorities. Reflect on the following:

  • Focus on the Journey: Appreciate where you are in your financial journey. Celebrate small milestones and learn from challenges. Use each step as an opportunity for growth and insight.

Planning a 'Red X Month'

Consider implementing a "red X month" into your life. This concept involves designating a specific time for relaxation and reflection, stepping away from everyday commitments. Here's how to plan your red X month:

  1. Identify Your Month: Choose a month where you can consciously reduce responsibilities. Ideally, select one where you can focus on yourself and your priorities.
  2. Block Off Time: Put a “red X” on your calendar for those days where you will dedicate time to relaxation and refreshment.
  3. Engage in Reflection: Use this time to think about your financial goals, personal values, and how they align with your actions.

Cultivating a Financial Mindset

A financial mindset requires a conscious effort to recalibrate your thoughts regarding money. Here’s how to develop a prosperous outlook:

  • Explore Everything: Don’t disregard ideas or concepts that may seem disconnected from your goals. Often, unrelated concepts can provide insights that may benefit your financial planning in unexpected ways.
  • Stay Open-Minded: Embrace the learning process and remain receptive to new opportunities and strategies, even if they diverge from your initial path.

Taking Action with a Roth IRA for Kids

One impactful strategy for wealth building is to open a Roth IRA for your children if they have earned income. This allows them to start investing early, benefiting from the power of compound interest over time.

  1. Eligibility: Ensure they have received earned income through jobs like babysitting or work at a summer camp.
  2. Open an Account: Open a custodial Roth IRA on their behalf, allowing them to contribute post-tax dollars.
  3. Encourage Good Habits: Teach your children about the importance of saving and investing from a young age, providing them with invaluable lessons about financial responsibility.

Managing Fees for Wealth Building

Minimizing fees is a significant aspect of long-term wealth creation. Here’s how to ensure you're not losing money to unnecessary costs:

  • Choose Low-Fee Investment Options: Invest in low-cost index funds or exchange-traded funds (ETFs) to keep more of your investment returns.
  • Track Your Fees: Regularly review your investment accounts to ensure you’re not incurring unnecessary costs. Compare different fund options to find the best fit for your investment strategy.
  • Understand the Impact of Fees: A mere 1% fee can severely impact your returns over time. Utilize calculators to visualize how these fees can accumulate, helping you make informed investment decisions.

Automate Your Financial Life

Automation can significantly simplify your financial management. Here's how to implement it effectively:

  1. Set Up Automatic Payments: Ensure all your bills are paid on time by setting them to autopay, reducing late fees and stress.
  2. Automate Savings: Consider setting up an automatic transfer from your checking account to your savings or investment accounts. This aligns with the “pay yourself first” principle, ensuring that savings occur before expenses.
  3. Leverage Technology: Utilize financial apps and tools to track expenses and investments, making financial management easier and more systematic.

The Importance of Time in the Market

Lastly, remember that time in the market is more important than timing the market. Here’s why:

  • Historical Context: Stock markets will always have ups and downs. However, investing consistently over time typically yields positive results.
  • Focus on Long-Term Goals: Avoid getting caught up in short-term fluctuations. Instead, concentrate on your long-term financial plan and remain steadfast in your investment strategy.

Next Steps in Your Financial Journey

Consider the following action items to maintain momentum on your path to financial independence:

  • Identify One Small Change This Week: Whether it's setting aside more for saving or minimizing a recurring expense, small changes can lead to significant improvements.
  • Track Your Expenses: Begin tracking monthly expenses to identify patterns and potential areas for savings.
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Comments (17)

KaySueBee 3 weeks ago
I'm hoping to see more structured episodes in the future that focus on a single topic or a set of connected ideas.
Borsak 1 month ago
Haven't played minecraft but considering introducing it to my child as well. Games are too easy these days so I agree with the lack of challenge and feeling of accomplishment when you succeed. I mean you at least used to have to put in cheat codes. Haha. And the original zelda you were just dropped in an open world map with very little to go on and your only help were kids on the playground and the Nintendo hotline.

Also fellow homeschooling parent here. That with a combination of working from home really has me excited with how much additional time I'll be getting with the kids.
wandereranthony 2 months ago
This was such a great episode, and incremental gains are so important. Couple of thoughts...

Red X Month... can be a month. Doesn't have to be. Could be a Red X Week. Or a Red X Long Weekend. Heck, a Red X Day. The intention of blocking off that time is key.

Saving and investing small amounts is still better than nothing. We had years where we could only to minimal saving and investing, even $5 or $10 a month. That still adds up, and keeps that growth mindset in the back of the mind, ready to crank up when circumstances change.
KSo 2 months ago
Great episode - I am hoping this may springboard a searchable database of 'best tips' where we can locate shared tips by topic (and hopefully more episodes like it n the future.) It's one thing to hear it...and another to remember it without having to hunt through the podcasts--may also be a way for the community to contribute to the tips ?

I learned more on ROTH contributions where money can be used for more than just a 1st home down payment or at 59 ½ years old, which will be a huge win to share with my 20-something kids who are scrapping to pay rent and have a hard time affording to put back money. We are working on the "pay yourself first" mentality.

Thanks, Brad and Jonathan! I love hearing your lives sprinkled in - keeps it real. I love framing FI about choices to live life, though all stages of financial growth, not just to save save ,save and sit on a pile of money afraid to live.
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Jonathan Mendonsa 2 months ago
on episodes 580 + onward I will be constantly improving and connecting info to future episode so any helpful info contributed by community members here will incrementally be made more an more visible as an ever green resource - more details to follow -

but the first upgrade to this will arrive on monday

and thanks for the feedback !!
Jhonatanrosario 2 months ago (edited)
This is an awesome episode. I just want to add two quick suggestions for phone service. I was a mint mobile user, but since I travel a lot, I’m a heavy data user, and T-Mobile is usually not the greatest everywhere. Back then, at least so I found, a company called US Mobile that has similar pricing. I pay annually $ 270 for 70 GB and 1 gb of international data and call and text international included. The best part is that you can choose which provider to use: Verizon , they call it warp AT&T; they call a dark star, and T-Mobile, they call light speed. If anybody’s interested, it’s really a good deal. Also, for traveling, I use a website called GigSky, which always has good deals for travel packages all around the world.
timjoiner 2 months ago
I really enjoyed the episode and liked the format of lots of topics on deck and getting your best 2-3 thoughts on them. Definitely complete the ~3 episode series to get through the list.
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Brad Barrett 2 months ago
Thanks Tim!! Glad you enjoyed, we have a lot more like this coming!
MMARI007 2 months ago
That was a fun one! I definitely love that the guys are back together! I also love the episodes with Ginger. What I loved about this one was the little practical tips. I know many of us probably do a lot of them but they are a good reminder just in case and even when the episode confirms that you are doing something right (e.e.g, auditing your phone company and switching if necessary), that's still a fun boost!
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EP 2 months ago
On the subject of fee free banking, Fidelity's CMA rises to the top. Free checks, free ATM withdrawals anywhere in the world, no foreign transaction fees on the debit card, free incoming and outgoing wire transfers, and your cash earns interest in a money market fund (SPAXX, 3.34% yield as of today) or FDIC insured deposit sweep (1.84% yield as of today) without any hoops to jump through. We switched to Fidelity as our primary "checking" account a couple years ago now and have not had any issues whatsoever. I cannot recommend it enough.
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zachary harr 2 months ago
I haven't yet listened to this one. Just wanted to say thank you for this week's email that gave a link to the episodes section! This is EXACTLY what I have wanted. Love the after-episode discussion forum here! Thanks!
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Mattydt20 2 months ago
Visible, a non contract cell phone plan that uses Verizon towers should get more attention. Unlimited data for $25/month, and it may work better for people that live in rural areas where Verizon is the only connection.
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shillingb2012 2 months ago
Hey, enjoyed the show and looking forward to hearing more in future episodes. I had one mention about phone plans and international travel. I used to use Google Fi full time but stopped for a cheaper plan like Visible, so I was looking for alternative international plans and found Saily. Saily has been super useful, it is cheap, super simple to setup, and has flexible duration. It uses esim and is my go-to for travel now! There are other options out there, but I've found that this one has been the best for me.
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BobbyK 2 months ago
I love that Jonathan is getting back into the gym, and that many in the Fi community are taking the opportunity to get serious about building muscle and improving their health. Let’s shift the image of Fi people from brown bananas to huge biceps and living your healthiest life! The beautiful thing about the gym from a Fi perspective is that the compounding works in reverse; most of your gains are made early on with diminishing returns as time goes on. If you start training seriously, a beginner can gain 10-15 pounds in the first year. It takes years to get jacked, but incremental progress over time and being consistent will completely change your physique.
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ATreth 2 months ago (edited)
I always enjoy hearing you guys chat about your kids, your trips, your families, your video games, your personal lives, etc., But even more so, I want to get more tips/hacks/ideas to help ME in my own FI journey! I do care about your lives! But I was under the impression this episode would be chock-full of 100+ ideas/hacks/tips. As always, I sooo appreciate how you so generously share your wisdom, ideas, and knowledge. I totally dig you guys, but I tune in to LEARN. Maybe try to reign in your personal conversation a bit? I mean, we CAN learn from life stories, but I'm looking for specifics! I'm not wording it right, as I read back what I wrote it sounds horribly bitchy. I like all the chatting, but I'm looking for more actionable stuff. Also I love the discussion about how helpful it is to deal with challenges. I think developing one's problem-solving ability is SUCH a valuable life skill. I know some people who have had everything handed to them. When you're a spoiled kid with everything handed to you, I think there's a like 95% chance you're going to be a miserable adult. When you learn things, achieve things, grow skills, you're just a more fulfilled person. It's so important. A HUGE component of happiness is growth. When you improve at a skill, talent, or knowledge base, there's not much that feels better than that.
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Jonathan Mendonsa 2 months ago
yep - we definitely didn't hit 100 - heres to part 2 maybe we will do better..... :)
Brad Barrett 2 months ago
I appreciate your comment for sure! I think the issue was our joking that we were going to do 100 in an episode. There was no chance of that. But we'll be mindful of being purely value added in the future!
spickarski 2 months ago
Agree wholeheartedly with this. This episode fell off the rails quickly. There was a lot of structure and benefits previously, but it has been lost significantly over the past few episodes. Focus on the education and leave the entertainment aspects for other shows.

I had to turn this off after 30 minutes. I know y'all can do better.
Wilsliu 2 months ago
Something else to make sure people know is the concept of the Spousal IRA. Even if one spouse doesn't earn any income, he or she can use the income of the other spouse to count towards IRA contributions. This is a powerful way to financially protect the non working spouse in case of divorce.

Just to note there isn't an account called a Spousal IRA. Just open a normal Traditional or Roth IRA.
Lottie Payne 2 months ago
This episode made me think of my life mantra: The Incremental becomes Monumental.

Or, as Gabriel Selassie put it, you must go ‘slowly by slowly’.

I enjoyed this one, looking forward to the next instalment…
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